Originally Posted by Stephiroth

Everybody knows girls don't play videogames, NeuroCat. GAWD~

Originally Posted by Fomorian27

Did you explore these possibilities? Doubtless you've probably mentioned different versions of these two spells over the 60 odd responses in the thread. I've probably gotten the idea for these spells by reading through the thread..


- Removing locus altogether, and his passive increases the range and damage of ALL his abilities the longer he holds them down (a la varus q, but with every ability). Perfect for seiging, fills the same role as locus (unless there's something I'm missing), resolves the problem of people only using locus to fire off a q and then running away.

Originally Posted by MetatsuGouHadouk

More or less what i suggested on my previous post, it just seems that xerath's cliche of being a siege mage is whats hindering his playability.

Originally Posted by Zerglinator

How about a line skillshot that drags people hit by it inwards?

It would totally work with his Arcanopulse. Also, it might be incredibly OP.

Originally Posted by NotBuzzJack

Are you keeping the MS bonus from exiting Locus? Because for his current WQ-WQ-WQ gameplay it's essential, but I would see little reason to keep it if there's actually a reason to stay in Locus for prolonged periods of time.

Originally Posted by Frickin Adorable

If you are changing his Arcane Barrage enough, how bout you make is E(mage chains) one aoe blast just like one of the attacks from arcane barrage. It could be aprox same size(maybe smaller) and prox the same range of the original Arcane barrage. But its NOT three shots like his original ult, its only one and the damage could be modified since it wouldn't be a ult. Also it still adds the stun effect, and since it's aoe it gives you the possibility to stun multiple opponents if you land the aoe on more than one person.

It gives Xerath another skillshot, and stunning multiple people with a E Q combo could be VERY strong, almost too strong, I am sure numbers could be modified to compensate.

thoughts?

Originally Posted by KevinDelMarr

Is all that armor, AS, and MR from being in Locus of Power, or is it just placeholder stats (does it fall under etc)?

Also does Locus of Power have a mana cost now, what is its CD?

Originally Posted by lightdragoon88

Please please PLEASE give us another screen shot or a gif of this if you can.

Originally Posted by Iaunu

Dear Xelnath

I know you don't have much time to read everything...

Locus of Power always sounded like it should have a damages nearby enemies over time aura.
Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Hamut

I may be the only one who thinks this, but I believe the key problem with Xerath's kit is mage chains. For a long range, AOE, sieging champion, a short range single target ability is really out of place. I would love to see an AOE rework (and range increase to match his q) to mage chains, possibly making it apply its debuff in an AOE around your single target or have it bounce between players in a fiddlesticks-like manner. Just imagine the combos.

Originally Posted by KillAlQaeda5871

Do you really read every post?

Originally Posted by Uniquisher

Sorry, I completely derped out here, I forgot i even asked that previously, btw, no reds have been replying in that thread, it's all lonely and sad, just like amumu

Originally Posted by HayabusaZero

Actually, that was the point of the story. She was completely dismissed from her own people and the Solari called her heretic for her curiosity about a cult that didn't followed the sun. That's what makes her so unique to my eyes, and i hope Riot continue to create Champs like her in the future.

Embrace the heresy!

Originally Posted by Hieronymus Bosch

I see you posting

so hi

^___^

Originally Posted by XAlFias

soooooooooooo , why didn't u guys think of that before releasing her ?? she was on pbe for a long time ? why now ??

Originally Posted by Koraq

So, I picked up Xerath again to refresh my memories of the highs and lows of playing him, and combined it with some of the feedback from this megathread, along with some of the ideas that you (Xelnath) have been running by us.

The high points: Clutch snipes through fog of war, and blowing someone up in seconds flat when fed. In one game in particular, I ended up fed enough that I was able to camp outside of the middle inhib turret, sit up in Locus of Power, and permanently zone the entire enemy team away from their own turret while it was slowly chipped away. That kind of power felt amazing, and it's something uniquely Xerath.

The low points focused around how little Xerath feels like he has to do between ult cooldowns. I was only able to zone that team because I was fed enough that my E->Q combo would drop the tankiest enemy on the team by 50-60%. If Xerath isn't fed, his E->Q isn't particularly terrifying, and if his ult isn't available, there's literally nothing else for him to do. It's really, really boring between ult cooldowns.

So, the big idea I came up with to solve some of the current problems revolves around Locus of Power, which is kind of the unknown variable right now. Perhaps, instead of simply giving some kind of stat boost (MPen, AP, etc), it could create increased synergy with his spells.

When Xerath enters Locus of Power, there's a loud thunderclap as he begins to radiate with power, sending out a shockwave the extends up to or just beyond the reach of his spells. The shockwave itself does no damage, but marks all champions it comes into contact with. If Xerath hits a marked target, there's a few things it can do.

Reduce target's magic resistance,
Give Xerath a temporary MPen buff,
Hits the target for bonus damage,
Reduce the cooldowns of Xerath's spells by X second(s),
or a mix of the above.

Alternatively, each of Xerath's spells could activate the mark differently. Hitting a target marked target with E reduce the target's MR, hitting a target with W could cause increased damage, and Q could reduce the cooldown of his spells (either all spells by 1, or only W by 3, something like that, since W's long cooldown could potentially lead us to the same boredom of waiting on R).
To justify the massive spike in power Locus of Power grants (and it should feel like a massive spike in power), each wave radiated costs X mana, or X + (N*Y), where N is the number of waves Xerath has radiated, and Y is the cost modifier. This mana drain would discourage just sitting in Locus of Power forever, as well as give his enemies a window of opportunity when he disengages the spell, which could have a cooldown once deactivated of 10-20 seconds.

Another possibility is outright changing the way the spells function while in Locus of Power. Arcanopulse is now max range regardless of charge time, and charging it instead expands it rather than extending it. Arcane Barrage now shreds MR, E proc's a Statikk Shiv-esque chain lightning that slows targets. I'm really not particularly close to any of these specific ideas, I'm more focused on the concepts of how each spell can interact with Locus of Power and/or each other.

By simply creating more interesting interactions within Xerath's kit, and giving little quirks to everything, the Mage Chains stun would feel less like a forced interaction, and more like a fun perk. Although, personally, I still like the idea of turning Mage Chains into a higher duration snare/slow so that it can be brought up to the same range as Arcanopulse and Arcane Barrage. That difference in range is just so... jarring.

A crazy idea for Mage Chains/Locus of Power:
Mage Chains is now a powerful slow or root when proc'd.
Casting Mage Chains on a target marked with Locus of Power allows Locus of Power to be cast a second time for 50% reduced damage; hitting a target with a second Mage Chains proc's the stun. Xerath could root two targets or stun one. Damage modifier could be increased if the increase to his burst is too substantial, or reduced if Xerath needs more burst. Of course, this particular idea is rather reaching, so I won't be terribly disappointed if it's actually too crazy to ever be considered.

Also, for the Arcanopulse v. Arcane Barrage:
Arcanopulse is awesome as it is, so the focus is on Arcane Barrage. How can one make the method of damage application through Arcane Barrage different enough to be unique from Arcanopulse, without simply being 'more damage'. One of the more popular ideas is a delayed nuke; instant damage, followed a second later by more damage, and it's one I like as well. Perhaps it could be given execute bonus damage, a % damage modifier based on health missing? If the Mage Chains and Locus ideas are implemented, it could create an incredibly powerful combination.

Locus Mark
E target
Locus Mark consumed, second E cast granted
First half of W consumes Mage Chains mark, slows target
Second half of Arcane Barrage detonates
Use second cast of E
Arcane Barrage slows target again, second half being able to hit again because of refreshed slow

My God. If that isn't more *** appeal than a Playboy Bunny, then I don't know what is.


Anywho, that's the end of my rambling for now.

Locus of Power telegraphed with thunderclap, Xerath radiates waves every 3 seconds, waves cost an increasing price in mana.

Waves mark targets, spells interact with the mark; interaction can be unique across spells or all have the same effects.

Locus of Power could modify spells -- Arcanopulse is wider, Arcane Barrage shreds MR, Mage Chains proc's a chain lightning that arcs between champions and slows them.

Mage Chains having a shorter range than Arcano Pulse and Arcane Barrage sucks; change stun to slow/root and increase range, create interaction with Locus of Power that turns the slow into a stun again.

Split damage of Arcane Barrage in half, giving second half an execute modifier.

Originally Posted by Eyrgos

Should do damage as a percentage of total AP, not scale with AD/AS (perhaps a minor AD ratio would be acceptable though)


Mid-aoe with mid-damage (perhaps give this the "sweet-spot"/"dart board" mechanic I was speaking of! Mid-sized ring with a small-ring on the inside, more damage if you hit the center bull's eye... I envision the mortar hitting like a mini Zigg's Ult but striking down slightly quicker than a Karthus Q)


Ammo-System which successful landing of spells replenishes ammo.


EDIT: One question I do have Xelnath is ~ do you have anything against the Dart Board idea or do you find it interesting & a good fit for one of Xerath's abilities (or Locus-AA)?

Originally Posted by ZenonTheStoic

In Uruguay and most of Argentina (and possibly in some part of southern Chile?) people speak Rioplatense Spanish, one aspect of which is the zheísmo / sheísmo. In those regions, "La Llorona" would be pronounced "la shorona" (or with the voiced variant, which is similar to French "j")

Originally Posted by Karn Bishop

When i read the words unstoppable i assume that absolutely no disables are capable of affecting that champion while said ability is active, meaning they ignore any such ill timed CC that was casted and much in the same way as when i find an unmovable rod in DnD, my first thought isn't oh i can move this rod with a spell! its oh no movement based spells or physical effort will move this item, so i don't get this logic you are attempting to use.

If you are going to use this logic to justify this change then also apply it to trynd and make trynd untargettable by autoattacks for the duration of his ult because hey attacking him is useless and THAT is burden of knowledge in its purest form.

Originally Posted by 0xiDIzE

This is another one of those little things that really annoys me about Riot. Why aren't you encouraging players to learn this type of counterplay rather than saying, "okay, we'll change it for you so that you can just spam abilities whenever and not feel like a noob for doing so?"

You make too many changes to accommodate low-skill players rather than just giving them better guides and tutorials on how to deal with certain game mechanics. This encourages them to stay at the level they're at currently, rather than improve their play through experience and tips from other players.

This is a change that shouldn't be made. There's no wiggle room in that for me.

Originally Posted by Verthy

good ****. keep it up

Originally Posted by lightdragoon88

I liked the change to auto attacks when in siege mode (even with Jayce cannon blast as a place holder)

How the test for that go?

If it good, what design ideas do you have for the Siege mode auto attack.

Originally Posted by Caítlyn

So why are you trying to spoonfeed bad players? Wouldnt it be better for the game if players had to learn how to counter rather then making it easy for them?

Originally Posted by sirtommygunn

what is up with your obsession to see teemo liked by people, it's unnatural.

Edit: Also you didn't specify what teemo was doing, so technically he could draw a dead teemo surrounded by cheering haters.

Originally Posted by TheAbraxis

It's also mainly an initiation tool. Tell me, which of your squishy carries is going to follow it up when you're going to be stunned afterwards unable to peel for them?

Like I get what you're saying, and don't have a problem with this in any other circumstance. The whole reason I love Vi is because of her awesome initiation, she was made for it (that passive), this is a big hit for that playstyle. Now whenever I ult, I am a sitting duck for counter initiation?

I'll just let someone else do it and use Ult to chase.

In fact I probably won't even play her.

Originally Posted by Shadow647

My apologies Lord Phreak, but I seem to have misclicked the dislike button

If you can find it in the kindness of your heart to forgive my heresy I swear I will return to the righteous path of which I have strayed.

Originally Posted by camoflouge

not to sound like a dick phreak 9ur one of the more [ublic riot figures) but as ur pic IS fiddle sticks its zhonyas is used offensively to ult in and immune while they try to focus u. i see how defensive this situation cn be considered but thats an initiate to kill them all

Originally Posted by Solcrushed

Please realize that the PBE changes are datamined from just the tooltips.

The tooltip for the stats just got moved to the spell level up tooltip. There is also another siginificant buff we are testing that the datamining missed.

Originally Posted by Silkmoon

Vi is overpowered.

Nerf Vi.

Vi is now weak and has mid 40% win rate and is hardly ever played.

Nerf Vi.

Also significantly reducing the skillcap of Vi, recognizing when you are going to be CC'd and immuning it actually required some thought.

Never cease to amaze me Riot. Why not make all spells that would have hit you but you blocked with hourglass hit you afterwards, that way it's a little more fun for people who get outplayed! =)

Originally Posted by futuresight23

Ok, that and what Feral said makes me feel better about what the change is. Thanks for clarifying the change that has been put on the PBE.

Originally Posted by Dalgdaddy

Will you go on a man date with me? We'll get some super hot wings and see who cries the least!

Originally Posted by Mr Lü Bu

@Riot NeuroCat
Are you married or single?
Have you got any plans getting married?
I'm single, I like to be your backup plan

Originally Posted by kirume

1. You applied to Riot because you love this game and game industry, or because you need a job right now :P ?

2. Rioter always choose anything in LOL to make avatar, is it tradition, or rule :X ?

3. Can you hint us about the next female champ? (yeah, I know it's a girl >))))

Originally Posted by MadridFC

you are the guy from www.riotshouldhire.me ???

Originally Posted by VashT3hStampede

Is there any type of 'volunteer positions' for possible forums work or modding? I'v already taken a place in tribunal aswell as PBE, but both places, I'd like to say my favorite is the tribunal, Dealing with situations of players is my liking, and since I have a horrid amount of time at work, to mess around on the league of legend forums, I'd like to know where or how or if im just choosen from the lock of people about gaining position around the forums to clean it up tidy it a bit.

Originally Posted by thumbnail9

Maybe she could be an Initiation mage? We have like a total of two that are designed just for that. I mean that really throw themselves in there and don't just wait for a pick.

Originally Posted by Sarkaid

This. And how is nerfing the damage of her ulti and her W a buff to her? She needs things to improve her solo lane not to make it any worse.

Originally Posted by TerminalVeloc1ty

So why push these changes to the PBE if you're still assessing her state? That doesn't make much sense to me. I've rarely seen you guys pull things from the PBE once it's there.

Explain please :\ And also, why NOT nerf lux and orianna? They both are too safe, and provide good damage, utility, and range. Why would we pick Lissandra over those 2 if we're trying to win?

Originally Posted by futuresight23

Is there a worry that Lissandra could end up being Zyra 2.0; an AP mid that brings strong enough utility that it becomes very strong as a support?