its only known if you are there when he puts it and then when it activates it... and nocturn would suffer this same thing. you can see his q blackness from the other side of the trees from wraiths/blue, but does that make him "unusable" ???


the only things that are real problems are the fear range and the shaco clone inconsistencies.. the others are just over dramatizations (the bush ones are because of the random sight spots in the bush - not anything specific to shaco, the stealth thing is PRETTY rare, etc.)

If it was his "Trap", that is his only counterjungle mesure then yes, he would become **** in high tier games.

Never saw these bugs ever happen.

The stealth thing is not at all rare.


If a stealth walks through your box's range, it instantly becomes glitched.

Let's say the fear range is 15 centimeters. The activation range is 15 centimeters. And the max possible range they can shoot at an enemy while activated is 30 centimeters.

If a stealth walks through them they will then activate the first enemy unit to come with in 30 centimeters NOT 15. They WILL NOT be feared and MOST of the time the boxes do not even shoot. So they just time-out and die having done nothing.


I would say an easy 7/10 times a stealth champ will see your boxes if they walk over them stealthed on top of the issue above.

you forgot about the glitches shaco's clone has when walking out of your range of control. often times he just freezes and you can't move him anymore even after you move back into range of your clone. sometimes after a long delay he'll warp back to where you are if you're out of range but sometimes that ends up making the clone get stuck in a wall if u happen to move towrads the clone right as he's dragged back to you.

this game has the title of being one of th most buggy/hacked/unblanced FTP among alot of gaming communities, and people wonder why and think its bs "aka fan boys" this most likely wont be fixed so there isn o reason to keep the thread open riot is to busy on all these new champs they have lined up and what apperance there going to next. F the game. Valve is gonna be at one of the next gaming Cons and hoefully have working demos of dota 2, countign the days

you forgot about the glitches shaco's clone has when walking out of your range of control. often times he just freezes and you can't move him anymore even after you move back into range of your clone.
sometimes after a long delay he'll warp back to where you are if you're out of range but sometimes that ends up making the clone get stuck in a wall if u happen to move towrads the clone right as he's dragged back to you.

+infinity

it's really sad they chain nerf him into **** while not fixing his bugs so even the best players that can still play him amazingly are inconsistent because one game they get these bugs one they don't it's a joke. also wtf is up with the .5 ad ratio one shiv make it 2.0 or 1.5 BONUS AD buff that ****ing late game