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@Guinsoo - Many Of Us Still Respect You + Riot

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ShockwayJr ?? Senior Member
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07-07-2011

It almost, almost sounds like you are trying to get into their pants.

I've said that to lady folk before. Respect them in the morning and all that.

Good times.

But yeah, haters gon hate. Must be doing something right.

 
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Rafiki Rex ?? Senior Member
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07-07-2011

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**** with irelia and you get burned, id say about 85 percent of the forum thinks shes balanced and you come out of left field to do a galio and old sona treatment on her.

White Knights to the rescue!
Yeah. I don't think she's balanced. Passive merc treads on a champ alone makes them pretty unbalanced. And then when they just need a trinity force and then to build pure tank and still get 3 kills in a team fight. Yeah. Not balanced much.

 
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07-07-2011

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Guinsoo please treat us like customers and not like children that need to be shamed into silence. We have invested money in our product and your tweet has made many of us nervous. I know it sucks to be personally attacked, but just having an emotional sesh about how everyone's picking on you is NOT professional, and that's just making everyone worry worse.

You're a nice guy and all, but if Irelia getting a double kill makes you sad, then that worries many of us. It is a LEGITIMATE concern, but you insist on throwing insults our way, saying we're all just a bunch of big meanies who love to pick on poor ol' Guinsoo and overreact about everything. We're your CUSTOMERS, we keep you in BUSINESS, please treat us with a little more respect than that, and try to be professional about this.
I'd like to meet the person that can take all the **** that the red's take on these forums and be 100% professional about it 100% of the time. I really would, because cloistered Buddist monks are kinda spiffy.

 
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CANlSMAJORIS ?? Senior Member
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07-07-2011

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**** with irelia and you get burned, id say about 85 percent of the forum thinks shes balanced and you come out of left field to do a galio and old sona treatment on her.

White Knights to the rescue!
It has less to do with us being white knights, and more to do with us not being irrational trolls. Personally, I think the Irelia changes are a bad idea on Guinsoo's part. Does that mean that I think I should be the one making the decision rather than him? Does that mean that I think he deserves to be bombarded with insults from hundreds of people on the forums? Of course not.

 
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07-07-2011

Ok seriously Guinsoo, Morello, Shurellia, Statick, Classick and everyone who works on balance at Riot I salute you. The balance of League of Legends is honestly superb considering how much it evolves and how young the game is. The balance is the chief reason I like playing League of Legends.

While I am normally critical of Riot's lack of features or delay of features (whatever you want to call it), the balance of the game has never been a factor in any of my criticism. Please keep up the good work.

Added: Perhaps the reworks are a bit strong (in fact I think all of the reworked champions have come out to be top picks) but that doesn't inherently make the reworks bad, it just means some numbers need to be toned down.

 
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standin ?? Senior Member
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07-07-2011

Honestly, you guys at Riot do a fine job. I've only ever been upset with one or two problems. And the only one that I can even remember was when LeBlanc's IP price was raised when she was on RP sale.

As a general for the community though:
The one consistent thing I've noticed across the board, out of all complaints though, is that people feel like the community is left in the dark a lot. I know this has happened a lot but the most recent and only example that comes to mind is in Gatsby's topic about Leona. Lot of crazy people posted in it, but the one semi-legit thing that was asked was, "What is causing the delay?/What is going to come, at the bare minimum?"
Admittedly that's not information we as a community honestly need to know, but having that information helps to settle some people's nerves. Because way too many people overreact and assume the worst, in all honesty. I've seen users on this forum make you guys out to be cigar-puffing criminals that are trying to steal all our precious oxygen like out of some Mel Brooks movie or something.
Point being: Receiving news earlier and having that news be a little more detailed beyond: "We care about you" will probably please a lot more people and reduce the incessant amount of rage.

 
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ShockwayJr ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by DysprosiumJD View Post
Guinsoo please treat us like customers and not like children that need to be shamed into silence. We have invested money in our product and your tweet has made many of us nervous. I know it sucks to be personally attacked, but just having an emotional sesh about how everyone's picking on you is NOT professional, and that's just making everyone worry worse.

You're a nice guy and all, but if Irelia getting a double kill makes you sad, then that worries many of us. It is a LEGITIMATE concern, but you insist on throwing insults our way, saying we're all just a bunch of big meanies who love to pick on poor ol' Guinsoo and overreact about everything. We're your CUSTOMERS, we keep you in BUSINESS, please treat us with a little more respect than that, and try to be professional about this.
Customers.

Not stock holders. You can make requests, not demands. Them's the brakes.

You need to get over yourself.

 
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07-07-2011

The fact is if irelia is complete **** after this patch expect hell, down vote me or whatever but its going to happen people will be even more pissed, shes taken pretty much consistent nerfs for the past few patches.

 
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07-07-2011

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Originally Posted by DysprosiumJD View Post
Guinsoo please treat us like customers and not like children that need to be shamed into silence. We have invested money in our product and your tweet has made many of us nervous. I know it sucks to be personally attacked, but just having an emotional sesh about how everyone's picking on you is NOT professional, and that's just making everyone worry worse.

You're a nice guy and all, but if Irelia getting a double kill makes you sad, then that worries many of us. It is a LEGITIMATE concern, but you insist on throwing insults our way, saying we're all just a bunch of big meanies who love to pick on poor ol' Guinsoo and overreact about everything. We're your CUSTOMERS, we keep you in BUSINESS, please treat us with a little more respect than that, and try to be professional about this.
If you can show me where I threw an insult toward any of you, I will definitely apologize... I think about the worst thing I said is good day, and that the personal attacks were too much for me.

Yes, it makes me sad that Irelia can charge into four full health champions, kill two, and escape. Many players may not find this to be an issue - showing concern about a tweet is one thing, personal attacks are another.

 
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Yeah. I don't think she's balanced. Passive merc treads on a champ alone makes them pretty unbalanced. And then when they just need a trinity force and then to build pure tank and still get 3 kills in a team fight. Yeah. Not balanced much.
Every balance change on a champion comes with the camp that will outright refuse hoping to keep the pre-changes so they don't need more skill in using their "favorite" champ. If it was, you would be still playing it regardless. It's just this time around, the group is a lot more fanatical (and a lot more abusive) than usual. Main Champion Bias?