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Leona: Buff or Nerf?

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08-02-2011

We are testing a few buffs to Leona for the next patch, nothing which adds a ton of power and mostly quality of life improvements.

I feel that her balance is pretty good right now, which is why we aren't making large adjustments. I'm happy that she's neither obviously overpowered or terribly weak. Her biggest shortcoming is that she may not necessarily fit into a sustain-driven laning meta, but I'm confident that she's viable when players rely on her other strengths.

 
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08-02-2011

Please give her something to discourage tower pushers when she's by herself. THere's nothing more annoying than finding a xin, yi, heck any single hero try to push a tower when you're the only one guarding it. They just ignore her. you can, stun them for 1.5 sec but they just continue right on.

 
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08-02-2011

I'm curious whether using W and R to clear a wave of creeps would work in that situation? Leona does have three AoE abilities even if they don't scale well or you aren't building AP anyways.

 
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08-02-2011

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that anyone feels apprehensive about potentially wasting an ultimate on something that is not going to guarantee safety of the tower or a kill.

Also, without building any sort of AP R and W aren't enough to kill caster minions if you're having a particularly rough time. That is sad. It's happened to me before.

EDIT: You say she is balanced in terms of a meta long passed, and no hint of it ever returning. You need to buff her to match current standards.

I'm speaking the truth here when I say this; the people who play her only do so because of her fantastic character design. I love the way she looks and I love being in control of her. Her kit is several stages weaker than any other tank character however and she will never see competitive play because she offers no advantage that other champs offer. Absolutely none.

 
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08-02-2011

W alone doesn't kill the creeps but it does help clear them, i find that one w(maxed) and one e is enough to kill most caster minions, but only those that you can hit. The problem however is when the push is accompanied with more one creepwave. And using your ulti to clear a creepwave doesn't seem to be very efficient way of doing it, as it leaves you with one less utility when a team fight breaks out.

The most common situation i find is that one tower is being pushed, and i just happen to be the only one in immediate vicinity to respond. I've tried building ap items on her but found its not worth the effort to do so for her w and e and instead concentrate on tank items.

I do however notice that if i reached the tower before the enemy, they are more apprehensive to attack it. However if they're already hitting the tower when i arrive, they just continue on doing so. since i do not do enough damage, or they think they can survive a 1.5 stun from my q and another 1.5 stun from my ulti (also at least wasting it just to stop a tower push).

 
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08-02-2011

make her passive usefull on solo lane and i will be pleased

 
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08-02-2011

I don't think Leona is alone in this regard. I think you could ignore a number of champions while pushing a tower.

Other tanks may have more personal dps and other champions may be better at clearing waves. Leona's low on single-target damage but she's actually above average for wave clearing among tanks. Leona is strong at cc and offensive plays so she gives up some power to do that and also be balanced. As noted above, we're looking at couple of small buffs next patch.

EDIT: Oh, and I'm glad that you enjoy her character design! Hopefully we can find a place, between small tweaks to her and perhaps a shift in the meta, where Leona can shine!

 
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08-02-2011

It seems like you are pretty firm on your stance. Fair enough, but a large part of the community believes that she is weak. I'm not sure if you have seen this, but this is from a fairly respected player in the community. Perhaps you can gain some insight regarding Leona from this.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...light=locicero

Thank you for taking the time to take input in regards to Leona, Volty.

I love her design and I hope you have some good things planned for her.

 
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08-02-2011

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I don't think Leona is alone in this regard. I think you could ignore a number of champions while pushing a tower
Well yeah all supports -.- Only she dont generate fear when near tower (when we talk about tanks) because she cant taunt. (amumu jungle so no count him)
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Other tanks may have more personal dps and other champions may be better at clearing waves. Leona's low on single-target damage but she's actually above average for wave clearing among tanks. Leona is strong at cc and offensive plays so she gives up some power to do that and also be balanced. As noted above, we're looking at couple of small buffs next patch.
The problem is the only place she can be in current meta is solo top and she isnt good there because of that she isnt able to proc her passive i think an ability to proc her passive with her own abilities for a little less dmg could work.
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EDIT: Oh, and I'm glad that you enjoy her character design! Hopefully we can find a place, between small tweaks to her and perhaps a shift in the meta, where Leona can shine!
love her

 
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Teganze ?? Senior Member
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08-02-2011

Like Volty said, just the fact that Leona is neither obviously OP or UP says a lot about how solid a champ she is.

With sustain getting an overall nerf eventually, I suspect that Leona will be very strong without needing direct buffs to her.

She's already a favourite of mine - her CC is very strong. I can't tell you how often I wished I was Leona while playing Amumu, and I can't CC someone reliably with Bandage Toss because of the way they juke, or because there's something in my way (of course, there are times I wished I was Amumu while playing Leona, but that's good too ).