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I'm convinced Riot doesn't care for what they've done to supports

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Crusalis ?? Senior Member
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08-08-2011

I like that people think there is a big mystery behind support characters and one Riot unlocks it, the role will be forever changed. Being the ward ***** is what a support does. It helps win games. There's no secret. Letting the carry farm up is just what you do. It's like that with every MOBA. Stop kidding yourselves and thinking that supports should get farm.

 
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standin ?? Senior Member
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Respect isn't a right, or a privilege. It's earned.
Again, you're not actually reading my posts. You're senselessly white-knighting at this point and you're just being an ass. Please, leave this topic.

 
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08-08-2011

Buffed scaling or better item incentives couldn't help, once they start having reason to farm over someone else, they're no longer support champions.

 
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08-08-2011

instead of last hitting giving just you the gold, how about it gives your entire team the gold (both for champion and creep kills)
(naturally the gold from cs/champ kills should be decrease to balance out that fact that everyone on your team is getting the gold)

this would solve 0cs support because it doesn't matter if 0cs or 100cs, everyone gets the same gold therefore support players gets the fun of buying items just as the much as the carry

it would also solve some other underlying problems too
1. it is much harder for hard/hyper-carry to farm up and kill everyone because the gold is distributed to the entire team; hard/hyper-carry getting fed is more frustrating to play against than to play as
2. prevents hard/hyper-carry from being completely shutdown and being useless; playing a useless champ is much more frustrating than the fun that comes from shutting him down
3. completely eliminate rage that comes from bad players complaining about ks in low elo or good players complaining about support getting the kills in higher elo

 
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DzelJ ?? Senior Member
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It might be the optimal idea. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, I'm saying that its a complete shift of an already established game pattern.
not trying to poke here just an honest statement for discussion purposes only. Is this not what is happening with the stealth changes? which then again stealth being more mechanic then pattern.

i am curious to see what RIOT has in store.
BTW thanks reds on the replys.

 
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standin ?? Senior Member
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I'm not sure what the solution is. It could be split resource... it could be making more support items that build from GP5.

Maybe its ok that supports don't want to farm.

It's an open discussion at the moment.
What is split resource, exactly?

 
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Shurelia Shurelia's Avatar ?? Associate Game Designer
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08-08-2011

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not trying to poke here just an honest statement for discussion purposes only. Is this not what is happening with the stealth changes? which then again stealth being more mechanic then pattern.

i am curious to see what RIOT has in store.
BTW thanks reds on the replys.
Yes it is, mostly because we think the current stealth system is unsalvageable. = (

 
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What is split resource, exactly?
Probably that you split the resource with your laning partner. Or at least something along those lines.

 
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What is split resource, exactly?
theyre talking about automatically splitting gold from minions in a duo lane between the champs

 
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I'm not sure what the solution is. It could be split resource... it could be making more support items that build from GP5.

Maybe its ok that supports don't want to farm.

It's an open discussion at the moment.
Making GP5 items more attractive isn't the answer. It'll end up like the Locket and be abused by champions that shouldn't use it.

GP5 items are also really passive and don't add much to the game.