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Can Zileas explain the shurelia support changes please?

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WatchTheTime ?? Senior Member
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08-16-2011

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Janna...isn't picked for healing.
Yea but she will be next to nerf just watch...

"Janna makes game too boring she can shield, knock up, and slow...can't rush and kill enemy champ in 1.3 seconds nerf now"

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Shurelia Shurelia's Avatar ?? Associate Game Designer
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08-16-2011

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Not that I'm disagreeing with you on the changes to Soraka, but if the two dedicated healers were really the only viable option, then (at Dreamhack) why did we see Janna picked 18 times compared to Sona's 15 and Soraka's 7? Furthermore, how does this explain Soraka's abysmal win rate (27%)?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...NQmp6Mnc#gid=0
People discovered that sustain is OP and started using it.

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Hostile Miku ?? Senior Member
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We were thinking of something like AoE cast on enemy. Something similar to Xin Zhao. I really don't want to change it though unless its necessary.
Can i give you a few idea for fixing Sona, you said its not a final change and its open for discussion, i just want to know what you think of these changes, (alongside the numbers nerf)

Maker her Q take some Armor and magic resistance off for 3 seconds on the 2 targets
Make her W mana costs 30/40/50/60/70 since 25hp for 65mana is just crazy
Make her W heal double if Sona has full HP
Make her W double buff aura effect everyone around her for 3 seconds not just that carry in the back who wont make any use of it
Increase the AP ratio on her W, you said you wanted ways for support to farm, that gives sona a valid reason to farm and it shouldnt break her with those base values.

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Yea but she will be next to nerf just watch...

"Janna makes game too boring she can shield, knock up, and slow...can't rush and kill enemy champ in 1.3 seconds nerf now"
Can I use your time machine? Considering this post and your name, you MUST have one.

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WatchTheTime ?? Senior Member
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Can I use your time machine? Considering this post and your name, you MUST have one.
Zilean boring it sorry

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Not that I'm disagreeing with you on the changes to Soraka, but if the two dedicated healers were really the only viable option, then (at Dreamhack) why did we see Janna picked 18 times compared to Sona's 15 and Soraka's 7? Furthermore, how does this explain Soraka's abysmal win rate (27%)?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...NQmp6Mnc#gid=0
Wriggle AD carry+Janna will be the new meta. And then one or both of those will get nerfed.

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WatchTheTime ?? Senior Member
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People discovered that sustain is OP and started using it.
Now if only people would discover if you attack the Support and not the carry...it can do wonders....

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Before asking for another explanation, you have to at least look at it from the perspective of the game's design rather than a Soraka player. Much of the complaining has too high of an expectation that Soraka has to maintain her current strengths.

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DarkRaiiin ?? Senior Member
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Zilean boring it sorry
Hmm...I wonder if he'll let me borrow it if I gave him some bananas.

But seriously, Riot has stated already that they love where Janna is. If anything, she's probably their favorite support.

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Kamikazi34 ?? Senior Member
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It is unreasonable to have 1 or 2 dedicated healers when they have a tool (sustain) that makes them the only viable options.

An extreme example would be if we had two characters with a 100% death spell, it would cause them to be the only viable options.
They were the only viable option? Then why aren't they picked in every game. Oh that's right, because they aren't the only viable option.

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