Watch his spotlight guys.

After the huge nerf to Q you want to max E first imo, so much damage. Not only does it have awesome damage but it's basically an AE fear. People are like "**** GET OUT OF GATLING GUN!!!!" and run away while you stick to their back blowing them up.

Watch the spotlight for tons of damage.

Q

I would say get 3 points in Q (and 1 in valk) before maxing E.

Same reasoning, I'm pretty sure most people would start with offensive items that brush a little on defense. This lack of AD means E is not yet good enough.

Unless you go Phreak mode and stack dorans, then I can see his justification for maxing E.

Q because it gives much better farming capabilities as it allows you to clear a wave with just R->Q, whereas you can't do that with E

I watched the spotlight, and thats why i brought up the question. I never understood the reason for picking either q or e to max first. I always picked q first for the poke, then unleashed hell like someone else said before hand. But i guess what Phreak is saying is right too.

Btw.... WOOOO HOOOO RED POSTS FROM PHREAK!!!!

I understand where Phreak is coming from, but you have to max Q because it's what lets him suck up every last CS out of the map.

E deals it's damage in over the course of a few seconds and you have to stay in range. Q is great for grabbing last hits you can't catch with your auto attack during the laning phase. It's also better for uncommited harass.

Q is better.