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@Riot- do something with Shen's energy and useless Feint

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Valtielx ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects
Anything could help. He doesn't need a rework, he just needs better energy mechanics and tweaks to his abilities. Especially on his W.

I really wish you would push him more toward an AD tank rather than AP. No one really builds it on him anyway.

 
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects

u can cast the shield on Teammates with LUX ... with shen it's for the ****s & giggles

 
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Pwnage Engage ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects
Ok...but ITS AOE!!!!!!

 
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Swiftcarp ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Fèlix View Post
Riven gets a dash with it. Goes off of a 1.0 AD
Lee Sin can shield allies, and use it as an escape maneuver. 0.9 AD

Shen's is .75 AP
Uhhhh

What? His shield ratio is an AP ratio.

 
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Olyps ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

Lee Sin's shield is one of the most versatile shields I have ever seen.

Use it on yourself, give yourself a shield and unlock the next ability that allows more spellvamp, lifesteal, and armor.

OR

It can be used to blink to an ally or a ward and give BOTH of you the shield with the follow up ability too.

Lee Sin's shield is positively bonkers.

 
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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects
These are the people in charge of balance guys

Luz has a freaking ap scaling double aoe team shield and its a skillshot.
Shen has press for weak self shield with big energy cost

GG Derp GG

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+ 10 Troll points

 
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Guinsoo Guinsoo's Avatar ?? Game Designer
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by elBOOBOO View Post
guinsoo admit it u hate shen
I love Shen, he's one of my favorite champions! Why would you say such a thing?

 
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Uhhhh

What? His shield ratio is an AP ratio.
Ooops. Misread. it's still higher than Shens.

 
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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects
ATTACK MY IRON SOLARI BRETHREN,THE LEADER OF THE NMR IS HERE!


use the parrots!

 
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Borigrad ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects
One: It wouldn't be so obvious he has energy problems, if the other energy heroes did.
Akali, no energy problems anyone even half decent never goes below 100 energy
Lee Sin, Why does he even have energy it's literally impossible for him to run out
Kennen, This one is more noticeable but not quite so much, he has problems if you never hit your Lightning Dash
Shen, He has energy problems even if you hit shadow dash, his Q costs way to much energy late game, especially when it's his utility move.

Two- Lux has not only an AoE team wide shield, but it can shield the same person Twice in quick succession. The only downside of it shielding the same target is that it doesn't stack with it self (that i am aware of.)

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
I love Shen, he's one of my favorite champions! Why would you say such a thing?
Why Not just change feint to be similar to J4's in a sense

Feint: Shields Shen for 50/100/150/200/250 + 30(50) for every hero hit for 3 seconds. This would not only reward you for using it properly but it would actually give you incentive to use Feint, because if you taunt a hero like Vayne or Kog'maw you are going to be taking ass loads of damage. This would help mitigate that and help him feel like a tank, and not quite so squishy cause he lacks a defensive steroid like other tanks.