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@Riot- do something with Shen's energy and useless Feint

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10-22-2011

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we're working other projects.
well we all know that isn't the stealth rework so what are you guys working on

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Guinsoo Guinsoo's Avatar ?? Game Designer
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10-22-2011

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Because he's been terrible for months, and we've been told since June he'd get buffed, he got a "buff" last month that did nothing.

Also, he wasn't released bad, he was put into this state by you (Riot, not personally Guinsoo, not sure who exactly gave him the steady dose of nerfs while simultaneously releasing stronger champs).

Also, you're here on the forums during a work day saying "meh, not now, too busy"


it gets annoying.
Well, first, it's Saturday, which is not, in fact, a work day.

Second, there's a lot of work that goes into a change, no matter how small. If we decide we want to change something, it might take me 5 minutes to physically change the numbers. But there might be research that needs to be done, it needs to be tested, integrated into internal playtests, tested more, potentially iterated on, put into patch notes, translated and localized, and tested one last time as part of final release verification.

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10-22-2011

Well, we just would hope to see Shen become a more liable champion. I think Fient and Shadow dash should be reworked into each other. And give him another damage skill if you really want him to be AP.

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10-22-2011

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Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects
It procs Lichbane.

With the AP ratio removed from sword heal, there's even less reason for Shen to attempt to buy that item as well.

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10-22-2011

Come on man how long really would it take to fix one skill, don't u have what? 10 more days till the next patch?

Isn't this something that the balance staff are paid to do + Fyi Saturday is generally considerd a workday
Like really you carn't say everyones to busy with upcoming changes to fix this one skill.
Not trying to be sarky just sayin

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10-22-2011

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Well, first, it's Saturday, which is not, in fact, a work day.

Second, there's a lot of work that goes into a change, no matter how small. If we decide we want to change something, it might take me 5 minutes to physically change the numbers. But there might be research that needs to be done, it needs to be tested, integrated into internal playtests, tested more, potentially iterated on, put into patch notes, translated and localized, and tested one last time as part of final release verification.
Talking about how much Testing you do makes me question how you can release Graves in his current state as a burst AD caster, with an AD carry steroid... or Vayne when she was 3 shotting tanks, or Xin when he was 1v5ing teams and not going below half HP.

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10-22-2011

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Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects

Lol downvotes. OK guys you are taking this thread way too seriously. I'm agreeing he needs love, trying to find a way to fit it in with our other projects, and tongue-in-cheek poking at the fact that yes, his W is pretty bad. OK guys
Just say yes we will buff him. Insta upvotes.

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10-22-2011

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Saturday is generally considerd a workday
...no it's not

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10-22-2011

The research has already been done by the players. Just take a look around and you will find numerous people who have collected and compared statistics. You people at riot seem to have this mentality that if you don't do it yourselves, it's not right.

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10-22-2011

Yea that damage reduction is barely useful for the amount of energy it wastes, always max it last... AND at late game?

Its completely useless to even use your W.

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