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@Riot- do something with Shen's energy and useless Feint

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sleepyj101 ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Well, first, it's Saturday, which is not, in fact, a work day.

Second, there's a lot of work that goes into a change, no matter how small. If we decide we want to change something, it might take me 5 minutes to physically change the numbers. But there might be research that needs to be done, it needs to be tested, integrated into internal playtests, tested more, potentially iterated on, put into patch notes, translated and localized, and tested one last time as part of final release verification.
I think most people know this. It's just that once again Riot's priorities and our priorities aren't the same thing. It's understandable ya'll being a company and us just being players but it still sucks. To make it worse on our end we never really get to hear about whats "higher on the list" than what we want which is probably because the list is always changing. Even so we get upset, downvote reds, and make a general nuisance of ourselves til we think ya'll get the picture. So don't take it too hard this is just part of the forum cycle.

 
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Vecuu ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

You guys nerfed every. single. evergy. cost. in. Lee. Sin's. kit.

And you won't nerf the shield energy on Shen?

Wtf?

 
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Guinsoo Guinsoo's Avatar ?? Game Designer
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10-22-2011

Well I'll think about some small buffs we could give him. I'm gonna go play a game, talk to you guys later.

 
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Fèlix ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

Bye :3

 
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Hobothesis ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

jannas shield has 2 benefits too. free BF sword and free damage absorbtion.

Maybe make his shield cost the same amount of energy, but when he gets hit he starts to gain energy back? Be more useful in a teamfight to pop it and taunt everyone. Dunno.

 
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Coldstream Guard ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

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Well I'll think about some small buffs we could give him. I'm gonna go play a game, talk to you guys later.
First thing you should do...go play shen, see how crippled you are by his lackluster energy system, then you will see where we the players are coming from, and why we are frustrated and a little hostile.

 
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10-22-2011

Bye Hf and try not to be up till 4 am XD

Lol random downvotes i must be hipster

 
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xApeZillax ?? Senior Member
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Well, first, it's Saturday, which is not, in fact, a work day.

Second, there's a lot of work that goes into a change, no matter how small. If we decide we want to change something, it might take me 5 minutes to physically change the numbers. But there might be research that needs to be done, it needs to be tested, integrated into internal playtests, tested more, potentially iterated on, put into patch notes, translated and localized, and tested one last time as part of final release verification.
I've lost track of days pretty hard, however, I don't think anyone in this thread or in the countless threads that have been created about Shen thinks this is a walk in the park. The problem is the time this has taken. Shen was given a steady hard dose of nerfs, and here is the last one.

Ki Strike:
Base damage reduced to 10 from 15.
Bonus damage now scales off 8% of his bonus health instead of 3.5% of his maximum health.

Vorpal Blade Vorpal Blade: base damage reduced to 50/90/130/170/210 from 50/95/140/185/230.

This was patch V1.0.0.118, which deployed May 10th. Since then we've heard "yeah this broke him, he'll get a buff, maybe a rework, energy problems, etc etc etc etc."

But he's gotten basically nothing (the Ult cost removal was good though). You bent Shen over, did your business, and for the better part of this entire year you've left him there.


scared.



alone.



afraid to tell his ninja parents, or his ninja guidance counselor what happened.

 
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10-22-2011

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Two thoughts...

One, I agree his energy costs just don't quite cut it. Unfortunately we don't have the time to do any sort of rework on him as we're working other projects. Maybe some number tweaks could help... I do think he's unnecessarily punished by the energy rankdowns with level on his slot as well - it's especially bad if you don't focus your points.

Two - is his shield really the only one with no other effect? Aha Lux's shield. I mean it's AoE, but it has no secondary effects

Lol downvotes. OK guys you are taking this thread way too seriously. I'm agreeing he needs love, trying to find a way to fit it in with our other projects, and tongue-in-cheek poking at the fact that yes, his W is pretty bad. OK guys
lol poor guinsoo. even gets downvoted when agreeing with something.

 
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10-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Guinsoo View Post
Well, first, it's Saturday, which is not, in fact, a work day.

Second, there's a lot of work that goes into a change, no matter how small. If we decide we want to change something, it might take me 5 minutes to physically change the numbers. But there might be research that needs to be done, it needs to be tested, integrated into internal playtests, tested more, potentially iterated on, put into patch notes, translated and localized, and tested one last time as part of final release verification.
Completely legit, go have a fun day off Guinsoo.

*edit* Don't downvote the glory of the weekend. D: