Simple request, many times I'll see a person with two games that they deserve to be punished for (Such as leaving/AFK and feeding) and then three games that they really didn't do anything bad but say "noobs" in all chat at the end of the game after goading from both sides.


While I do think they deserve some punishment for the leaving, the verbal harassment really isn't punish worthy, and I'd like to have some way to point that out within the Tribunal, that way we can really give people punishment for things they deserve, instead of adding on extra just because a person felt like being a jerk and throwing out a "Verbal Abuse" report at the end of the game for one insult.


Just as a disclamer: I don't support negative speech while in LoL (Though I've most certainly raged and done it) but I also don't think all insults are really punishment worthy, such as a quick snip right at the end with no other words said the entire time.

Each case can consist of multiple games but only determines a single outcome. The objective is to determine if the overall actions presented in a single case merits punishment or not.

For instance if someone was spamming slurs while going 0/40 in game 1 but was only mildly unpleasant in games 2 and 3, I would probably still vote punish. I might have pardoned 2&3 had they been a separate case but that 1 game still makes me feel action needs to be taken with that reported summoner because they were that excessive.

And then maybe that person's team made him do that.One can try to be positive and not act like a ****** but there are just that games when people are making you derail.That case 1 can be a bad game,everybody has them.

If your one game is 0/8 and you're swearing at your teammates, and you have no other reports, then ok, that's maybe a pardon.

EncasedShadow's example was where one case is so bad that they deserved to be punished based on that case alone. Different people will draw that line in different places, and that's not only fine, it's the whole point of having a Tribunal in the first place. But it shows that yes, it is possible to punish based on one case alone, and there are some circumstances where that's ok.

Any unprovoked, poor sportsmanship deserves punishment in my opinion. Even if its a "noobs" call at the end of a game from a player on the winning side (or loosing). Its just really ****ty playing and it detracts from the play experience for those folks on the receiving end. Zero tolerance as far as I'm concerned (assuming they instigated it and were unprovoked of course).

No sir, that's the point actually, everybody DOESN'T behave that way. And claiming that it's other people that make you (I don't mean you personally) do it is just ridiculous. People can make you angry, people don't have the power to remotely cause you to type or do things you don't want to do.

Absolutely! People can have a bad game, and we're aware of that. Back end stuff aside, that's why we use voters to help decide if the one bad game is bad enough to warrant action. Alternatively, voters can help decide if actions over many games total up to merit punishment.

My example was for a case where I felt the bad strongly outweighed the good and neutral actions enough that some action needed to be taken. If it is their first warning, hopefully it will help them keep it in check next time. If it results in a suspension, then they've had at least a warning and need a stronger reminder that they need to keep to the Summoners Code.

But Mom...he MADE me do it!

Good lord...who are these people.

Everyone has buttons. Push the right one, and it's very easy to tip someone over the edge of rationality. For example, if a person is normally a pretty cool guy, but goes completely ballistic on the off chance that someone gets under his skin, say for example, let's say he's had a really bad day, and now his family is insulted/cursed/slandered by another rager in-game (something that for one reason or another is of particular offense to this person, and that only a small handful of other things could possibly trigger), does that mean the first guy is also a chronic rager worthy of a ban? I'd argue no.

Please note I'm not saying it's ever OK to do that, just that you can't necessarily condemn someone for awful behavior from one or two incidents.

Which would be why [a] there's a pardon button and [b] it takes more than one or two reports to get to Tribunal.