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Deathfire Grasp on Ahri: core item?

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relevantex ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

I have not seen one Ahri with DFG, even though it gives her some awesome stats (cdr!) plus some much needed burst. I've seen quite a few Morello's users though which confuses me. I'm starting to get it as my third core item, in between Rylai's and Deathcap. What do you guys think? DFG is no doubt a good item on her, but is it a better option than Morello's, and is it important enough to be a part of her core build?

 
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Arai Kitsune ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

Morello's is always bad, even on Lux or Xerath the active is useful for gap closing assassins.

Deathfire Grasp on the other hand, is a core item for me as well on Ahri. I tend to pick it up as my third item, after RoA and my Deathcap. Even if I need something else more, like say, a void staff, or an abyssal scepter, I will try to pick up the lucky pick at the very least.

 
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MonkeyMaker101 ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

no

 
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A Swarm of Koala ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

yeah, you would think it was good.

maybe they aren't smart enough to remember the active?

 
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Silverlocke ?? Member
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12-21-2011

It probably depends on the skill of the players.

If you have experienced players who are good at activating items, a 30% lead-in is going to be great.

If you have players who are not comfortable using # keys as well as qwer, well, morellos is more useful for them

 
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Ace Mckick ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

I generally build morello's, not because I forget about DFG. the kages should help in lane and you're right it is overall better with the exception of less AP and CDR.

 
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Strawberrycocoa ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

So far I have bene doing reasonably well with a build focusing on RoA, Sorc Boots, Deathcap, Rylai's, and Void Staff. I may try an early DFG though, can't help but see good things in it.

I think RoA is the best first item though, or at least the catalyst, for survivability. I don't think a glass cannon Ahri will do very well.

 
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RoamandFeed ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

I rush DFG on the champs I get it on. Completely ensures you get a kill each time it and your ult is up on pretty much any ap. Without it you have to play the poke game to get them low, but with it you skip that step and kill them in one stun.

Anyone who gets Morellos over DFG is probably a newer player that you shouldn't be looking to for advice.

 
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Tsukuyomu ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

is situational, if your team is a cc heavy or a kite team normally i wouldnt go dfg, But when there is a vayne, kog, talon, etc and my team is all in, no kite, or almost no heavy cc dfg is needed.

 
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MasterRiven ?? Senior Member
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12-21-2011

I just don't like Morello's as an item, the bonuses it provides I usually get from other sources (like deathfire) which just seem to give me more bang for my buck.

Also, I don't buy DFG on Ahri because I play her as a sustained mage (RoA/Rabadons+ WotA)