It is impossible to fix, it cannot be done.

The reason being, I am REALLY good on Ahri, but guess what I dont play her every game. If i did, i would be 1800 elo easily. On other champions I am a 100elo player.


No one can be lumped into a single rating, we all have strong points and weak points. And we dont always get to play what we want, nor do we always want to play what we are good at. And sometimes, we dont realize what we are good or bad at.

Summoner's Rift Normal Draft

solo que

Two of my teammates were under level 30. The opposing team had 4 out of their 5 players with 1000+ normal wins.
Here are their ranked elos for this season
1419
1402
1400
1416
1665

My teams ranked elos
1282
1328
1406<-myself
2 non-ranked under level 30s

Now I understand ranked elo does not equal normal elo, but how in the world was this anywhere near a fair match?



Second game today.
Normal draft/summoner's rift
Our Elo's
1647
1424
1406
1565
unranked lvl 30

Their Elos
1589
1425
1500season1
1937
1400season1
(Missed the screen cap on this one but my team gets stomped and surrendered at 25minutes. What in the world was a 1900 player doing in that game?)

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1) What is your Summoner name?
Ganguester

2) What was the game mode? (Normal, Normal Draft, Ranked)
Normal Draft

3) What was the map? (Summoner’s Rift, Dominion, Twisted Treeline)
Summoner’s Rift

4) Were you queuing with a friend? a. If yes, how many friends? (1, 2, 3, 4?) b. If yes, and ranked, what were you and your friends’ Elo(s)? c. If yes, and normal mode or normal draft, what was the Level and win/loss of you and your friends?
No.

5) If you are below Level 30, do you have a Level 30 account?
I have a level 30 account

6) Any specific reason(s) you felt the game was unbalanced?
Yes, my team had 14, 24, 25, 30 lvl players (and im lvl 30 with 1660 wins and 1568 loses, and i was last pick because this 4 players were premades) vs 30, 30, 30, 30, 9 players

7) A screenshot of the end-game score

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Hello,

The biggest problem I have with the current elo system is it completely screws over the largest pool of players -- the mid ranged ones.

I float around 1200-1300 elo currently... that may be my actual elo / skill level, and I am fine with that.

What completely SUCKS about consistently playing at this level is that in roughly 20% of my games (rough estimate) there is at least one player who has under 5 ranked games under their belt, and has NO idea what is going on.

I understand that he's still getting worked into the system because he's new, but because I am in the mid range of players how it is fair that I am the constant test subject for people who are blatantly in the wrong elo?

Really big problem there, if you ask me.

I do not remember all these details. But I remember when my friends(3 of them) started out this game as level 1's. My friend used his level 30, I used a smurf around level 15. We faced a team with a level 30 with a bit over 1000 wins, another level 30, and the 3 were a mix between 5-10. It was quite a looong time ago, but it was quite ridiculous.

Another thing is when you solo queue at level 30, you often get un fair matches. Yes I know its not about wins, its about hidden Normal Elo in how your match make. However, there are plenty of times where you face 5 people with 800-1200 wins, and your team is a bunch of fresh level 30's. Sure,the fresh level thirties must of had high elo's, but that could easily because they are facing idiots, or simply getting carried. While the 800 win guys were just having a few bad games, and now you have people that played the game for a month, facing people who have played the game for a year. Elo doesn't show EXPERIENCE, and EXPERIENCE is what makes games unfair, happens ALOT in ranked.

You should clarify the poll question. is it "How many games does the current system take to reach true elo?" or "How many games should it take to reach true elo?"

I voted for a low number because I interpreted it as the second.

Honestly, duo queueing and the initial Elo bracket are screwing up the true adjustment process. I've been on both the receiving and giving end of a 1200 Elo team duo queued with a 1700 who completely upsets the balance of play.

I wouldn't mind waiting a minute of two more of queue time to be matched up with, say ANOTHER 1700 player in a 1200 Elo game, so as to equalize or level the playing field, so to speak. This range is flexible, of course, e.g. 1300 team w/ 1800 ringer V. 1350 team w/ 1750 ringer etc.

I don't suggest locking champs until you've played X amount of games with them; by and large I'm noticing a lot more teams adhering to the meta i.e. not troll picking