I understand raging about things you don't like, buy Lyte created a thread to find problems with matchmaking so he can address them and improve the system. Why you would come in here and rage about the system is beyond me, because clearly he is working on it. Yelling that it needs to be fixed. Obviously Riot knows this or they wouldn't have him working on it. Be constructive. Post idea, examples, etc. Don't just post a rant about how it sucks. He's working on it and said several times he's in the process of coming up with a list of changes and will create a new thread. Obviously you don't ready the rest of his post. Be constructive or don't post. Hes trying.

I would actually venture a guess that the people in here just to rage are the same people who rage in game and just criticize, rather than try to be positive and help. Just saying.

Bumping this post. Clearly matchmaking has been an issue due to many things, elo ranking (bad for multiplayer), new ranked players matched with veteran (150+ wins), afks, free week champs in ranked, new release champs in ranked, troll ninja lack of communication players, rage rage rage..the list goes on. But it needs to be not just addressed, it needs to be fixed NOW. I don't want updates that promise fixing, We want results, not text post "promises".

/endRANT

Just came back from a 2 month break, and noticed this post, figured I'd add my recent experience. Over the last 2 nights I have been duo queueing (normal) with a friend, who even after my break, is at a far lower skill level than me.

The first night back (3/20) we won 3 and lost 1. All 3 wins I felt our team mates where of a far higher skill than the enemy team. It seemed that everyone getting placed on our team was at my level or higher. And the enemy team was at my friends level or lower.

Last night (3/21) we won 0 and lost 4. I did not look into the enemy teams match history or any ranked ELO. But from observing the game play I felt like the enemy team players where all at my skill level and in some cases far higher, and all of my teammates where at my friends skill level or far far lower. Needless to say we had no chance in any of our matches.

I made this post in support for Dominion ELO. It should be shown. It has been one of those nice factors that veteran Dominion players have been riding on to keep on going.

Lyte, here are some of my ideas. Please comment on them.

1) Problem:
There is huge variance in player skill at the 1300-1500 elo level. I often get games where one or more players have absolutely no clue what they're doing. After the game is over, I look at their elo, which is the same as ours but he only has 16 wins. This kind of pairing ruins matchmaking and discounts experience as a factor in skill level. Plenty of people get lucky and shoot up in the short term.

Solution: Add a tier factor to each person's account, based on ranked wins. Hypothetically, let's have these tiers be 0-80, 80 - 180, and 180+. Matchmaking prioritizes putting together people who are in the same bracket, with some allowances being made if queue time takes too long. I believe this solves the inexperience problem quite neatly without negatively affecting anyone's gaming experience.

2) Problem:
Duo queue pairs often have huge differences in elo, which either results in the higher level player rolling his lane and the game or the lower level layer's lane crumbling, leading to nonstop feed. This kind of scenario makes the game unfun for everyone and many of the games I play with duo queuers result in 20 minute surrenders on either side.

A secondary problem is the lower level player getting carried beyond his level. I've often a high level duoer whose partner is very new to ranked. This lower level player is often taught to play one role (support usually) reasonable competently, taught to play passive and hold their lane until his partner can snowball and win his lane for him. Once left alone, however, this lower lvl player becomes a real terror in his bracket, costing whichever team he's on the game due to his inexperience and inability to adapt.

Solution: Either pair duo queuers with similar elo differences against one another (possibly impractical due to limited availability) OR create an elo requirement for two people to duo (say, the lower player must be at least 85% of the higher players elo, to account for the fact that differences are less noticeable the higher you go). I proposed the second method because I'm of the camp of people that believe that the high difference pairs have no place in ranked. The matchmaking logic that 1000 elo players should not be paired against 1500 elo players should not change just because a 2000 elo player is along for the ride. Games should be full of 10 players whose elo level are approximately at the same level.

With these eventual updates, I may grow to enjoy ranked, as absurd a thought that is to me.