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Did anyone else know about the recommended builds under the Support page?

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plushiemikey ?? Senior Member
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https://support.leagueoflegends.com/...hampion-guides
EDIT: Apparently the Champion guides got removed?... See the attached picture for reference!

I seriously did not even have a clue this existed. Though it doesn't have all Champions, nor are some of the suggestions most optimal, I think they're very beginner-friendly. Plus, the picture format is just pretty in general, lulz.

Seriously? I never even knew these were here. Were they promoted at all before?

There are some other interesting posts on the support page in general here.
https://support.leagueoflegends.com/forums

Btw, sorry if someone had already pointed this out before and I'm just out of the loop.

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Originally Posted by plushiemikey View Post
Oh wow, there's a red in my thread! ;O (And that rhymes!)

@RiotBlasto: The main thing I want to know about these guides is the fact that 1), why do they not have a lot of exposure (it's in a really obscure and surprising place) and 2), what are your future plans on expanding upon this? It's great what you and Riot got going here!

I do hope you do this for a lot of Champions--especially ones like Ashe, whom are popular amongst beginner players--and put a lot more effort in helping beginner players getting accustomed to LoL. I know that many friends who were once noobs would not have survived, honestly, the learning curve of LoL if it were not for the help of other veteran friends.

EDIT: As read around previous, I think it would be great to link to these guides for when free-to-play Champion announcements are made, led to the corresponding champions. What are your thoughts on this? (Or maybe directly incorporating them in-client/game somehow!)

And somewhat off-topic, but your Tutorial seriously needs an update. For example, I think Annie would make a far better "mage" to pick from than Ryze for beginner players, especially because of the Ryze mana-optimal remake. Are there any plans on making the learning curve, in general, easier to grasp in LoL for beginners? This kind of strikes a larger issue than originally brought up, but I think it's relevant.
EDIT: Here is an attachment, courtesy of Omonomous, for posting. We're aware the Udyr build isn't exactly the most... optimal, either, but it was the only image we had on-hand before they were taken down. Also of note: the Lulu page had her Champion Spotlight embedded as well. The Nidalee page also had two separate builds: one tanky, AD-ish build and another AP build.

 
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plushiemikey ?? Senior Member
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03-28-2012

Bump; fast-moving forums, or alternately everyone already knows.

@RiotBlasto: Did you make all of these, or were you just in charge of formatting/posting them or otherwise?

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EDIT: I decided to relocate the other great forum responses here.



This discussion has gone a lot faster than expected! Here are some great comments, I feel, from other players:

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Originally Posted by Roflpwndawesome View Post
They're really, really nice guides. I mean not the ABSOLUTE best Spells for all the champs, or the best builds or masteries but TBH, I think these should be more heavily advertised. New players would love these. It covers everything; masteries, runes, build paths, skilling order etc. Very solid. I wish they had been around when I first started x.x!

Have to say, I just looked at the Lee Sin one, it's pretty good! GJ :3
Now i intend to look at the others and see what I can find. However, I think since they include Summoner Spell Smite that They should imply starting w/ Cloth Armor 5 Health pots, since that'd make it easier on new junglers.

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I would definitely put these somewhere where everyone can see them, like when you guys switch free champion rotations
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Originally Posted by Big Box o Prawns View Post
I'd say the biggest thing right now would be to advertise these a little more. You would end up getting a lot more feedback, try putting them on the front page with a headline like: "Having Trouble With ____? Try Out the Customized Riot Recommended Build Guides!"
Throw in a couple good jpg's from a guide or two, and WUH BLAAAAAMOOOEEEE.

Success.
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Originally Posted by TheBombshock View Post
The formatting for these is excellent. Very simple and easy to understand. Really good for beginning players.
Three things I would suggest:
1. Would be very nice if the items had rollover links to their description.
2. These should be put on the main page, and also advertised in some way. They're great!
3. Provide a link to these in champion description in the client, or even better, have these in the client!

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Please make them appear again.
So, so far Ive read and thought of these advices:

-Item/Skill Rollover link to information
-Make the guides appear in a better known place
-Make guides appear in the "Free champion week section" Example: Udyr, Riven, Shaco are free, those guides appear next to the champ
-Re-do/Update of some of the guides. You can take info out of leaguecraft or mobafire.
-Make guides bigger, with different possible builds.
-Info such as CD/Dmg/Cost in abilities

 
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what support page?

 
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Originally Posted by TheDisTuRb3D View Post
what support page?
Located at the top right, and linked still in the 1st post otherwise.

 
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03-29-2012

I'm glad y'all are enjoying them!

I created the format, but all of the information in them is from a collaborative effort from numerous Rioterz. They were created in order to help any player who is having difficulty with a Champion.

I would love to hear some thought from y'all regarding anything that might make these more beneficial and better overall. This is all revolving around improving everyone's experience when they purchase a new Champion, or even try them during the free rotation week.

Please feel free to leave some feedback.

 
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Originally Posted by RiotBlasto View Post
I'm glad y'all are enjoying them!

I created the format, but all of the information in them is from a collaborative effort from numerous Rioterz. They were created in order to help any player who is having difficulty with a Champion.

I would love to hear some thought from y'all regarding anything that might make these more beneficial and better overall. This is all revolving around improving everyone's experience when they purchase a new Champion, or even try them during the free rotation week.

Please feel free to leave some feedback.
They're really, really nice guides. I mean not the ABSOLUTE best Spells for all the champs, or the best builds or masteries but TBH, I think these should be more heavily advertised. New players would love these. It covers everything; masteries, runes, build paths, skilling order etc. Very solid. I wish they had been around when I first started x.x!

Have to say, I just looked at the Lee Sin one, it's pretty good! GJ :3
Now i intend to look at the others and see what I can find. However, I think since they include Summoner Spell Smite that They should imply starting w/ Cloth Armor 5 Health pots, since that'd make it easier on new junglers.

Edit: Nidalee - Wow, at first I was kind of amused that they put up the AD Build, but they ALSO put up the AP build, displaying that she has multiple effective build paths. Very very nice touch.

Edit: Lulu- I haven't played/seen a ton of her, but it looks solid. The starting items PROBABLY aren't optimal for totally new players, but a lvl 30 can pull them off with ease. Pretty decent, personal hangups aside :3

Edit: Sejuani- Looks pretty good, seems similar to what the whole 3 Sejuanis I've ever seen built. But in all seriousness, this is a build rather similar to how Alistar would build, I can imagine she pulls it off about as well as he does.

Edit: Olaf/Udyr/Lee Sin- I just thought I find it amusing that they all have incredibly similar build paths , not like it's a bad thing though. Since that's probably how I'd build any of them anyways :P

Edit: Viktor - I cannot express how happy I am with the guide. PARTICULARLY the choice of Augment Gravity. However I find the full build to be pretty expensive. On a personal note, I prefer an Early RoA when I'm not fed. That's just my opinion, i've seen lots of people rush a deathcap with great success. ALSO THE TWO DORANS RINGS <3. And another personal note, I like power transfer more than Death ray. It allows Viktor to trade a lot better and is more reliable than Death ray most of the time.

Edit: Karthus- This is pretty much How i would play Karth, early Roa for the Mana quickly transition into a death cap. I like this one a lot :P!

Edit: Shaco- Tbh the only thing that bugs me in this one is the Guardian Angel, I just dislike that item. That is, again, a Personal hangup. Otherwise It's a very solid build Imo.

Edit: Vladimir- I've seen this build used many times with great success, I really have no hangups on it. I would use this build if I were to play him.

Edit: Udyr #2- Er. . .I don't like the idea of maxing bear stance. . .The build is pretty solid, but Tiger and Phoenix are a lot better than bear IMHO.

 
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Utility spec Vladimir...

 
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Utility spec Vladimir...
CD reduct, brah.

 
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Edit: Sejuani- Looks pretty good, seems similar to what the whole 3 Sejuanis I've ever seen built.
That is actually the build I've been using on Sejuani since I first picked her up. I tried numerous builds, but this was the one that works the best for me in most situations.

 
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I would definitely put these somewhere where everyone can see them, like when you guys switch free champion rotations