Originally Posted by Darksyde

And if you accidentally punch someone in then it was exactly that, an accident. You aren't intentionally trying to hurt them. You were doing jumping jacks in your living room and your brother walked into you. Does that mean you aren't allowed to do jumping jacks anymore because you MIGHT accidentally punch someone in the face? Thank you for presenting the foundation for such a strong counter argument. It helped .

Originally Posted by Kolgax

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Originally Posted by Darksyde

And if you accidentally punch someone in then it was exactly that, an accident. You aren't intentionally trying to hurt them. You were doing jumping jacks in your living room and your brother walked into you. Does that mean you aren't allowed to do jumping jacks anymore because you MIGHT accidentally punch someone in the face? Thank you for presenting the foundation for such a strong counter argument. It helped .

Originally Posted by suns song

I think there's a slight difference here. If there's something that you know could commonly offend people, I.E. slurs (which should never be used regardless), or calling something 'gay', or suicide/rape jokes, then you should avoid using them altogether unless you are around a specific group of people you know will not be offended. It is not hard to believe that those things will offend someone, even if they do not speak up.

Something, let's say for example, the talk of losing a job, is not quite on the same level. It might offend somebody, somewhere, but it's not the kind of thing you know is considered offensive by a wide variety of people. If someone says 'hey that bothers me, could you stop,' then even if you think it's silly, you should stop, but there's definitely a difference between those two situations.

Originally Posted by Crownface

So you're saying that there's nothing in this world that a large portion of the community would find offensive that you should avoid saying for their sake?

Even if you don't know everyone in a room, you should know that certain people will be offended by X or Y, so never ever bring up X or Y. Why is that a difficult concept?

Originally Posted by Crownface

It doesn't matter what meaning it has taken on for you personally.

Fruitstrike has demonstrated in this thread that people are still offended by the use of certain terms.

Are you going to tell him and everyone else offended by those phrases that they're objectively wrong in taking offense?

Originally Posted by Darksyde

I'm not using it to justify hate speech. Do you lack reading comprehension? My entire point is that people who have come to use the expression "that's gay" are NOT using it as hate speech. That is not the message they are trying to convey by saying that. They are not using it in any context that includes sexuality. It has literally taken on a new meaning in that form which is totally separate from any other meaning of the word gay (happy or homosexual).

Originally Posted by buttbrain

this is an argument that will go 'round and 'round based on our own personal beliefs and opinions. some people, such as myself, believe it's based much more on context and intent than the word itself, while many many others base their opinion on a black and white definition of what is and is not generally offensive, and i can completely concede to the fact that it is easier to police millions of game players on a set of black and white rules than a case by case context/intent based system. in the end whatever riot applies to the summoner's code is what we're required to adhere to (captain obvious =P) and i am fine with that, and i understand that. i just wish, as i mentioned a few pages ago, that we could find a way to put a severity level to punishment based on the "crime" committed.