Amumu's tears have tripled in power :'(

Tbh, Riot produces characters that are appealing to look at because most of us (assuming we're playing League several hours a day) don't want to be staring at something as disgusting as Urgot. He's an amazing champion and I love his kit, but I cant stand to look at him.

Am I vain? Yes. Are many more of us secretly thinking exactly what I just said? Yes.

This statement here is something I have never identified with.

One of the largest selling points in your game is the huge variety of champions here.

Different for the sake of different is very fun, it's the nature of things. How can you have "variety" without wanting inherent difference?

Are you saying that you would be willing to sacrifice a variety of characters merely for cohesion? You would rather have homogenized champion design for cohesion? What does that mean?

I have no information based upon certain champion archetype sales, but I'm pretty sure that if you continue to appeal to the same thing constantly (generic humanoid champions with a quirk) it will exhaust that appeal.

Hey Ahri stands out A LOT for some of us since she's based on a Chinese myth, has a deep story (a love one too) has 9 tails all that in addition to being attractive. I don't think you really have to make champions ugly to stand out.

Wukong also falls into this group and it is the result of the multi-verse component. For those of us wanting more "monsters" is that it is a multi-verse. Chinese mythology isn't the only one that Riot can use.

Where's my Odin/Thor champion? I'd love that too. Not as much as a Lord of Change but...

Or even Urf. Does riot know how much money they would make if they put Urf in as a playable champion? It'd make the cries for "blind monk" seem like a whisper.

But actually there isn't that much demand for it - that's the point. Whenever we do anything in this vein, very few people play or use it, even if it's too strong or overpowered.

It's tough to have this discussion because the datasets are really different; on one hand, you have a thread with vocal, passionate players, some of which really do enjoy this type of thing, and on the other, you have the entire LoL playerbase (data we have and are always trying to make more accurate).

Anecdotal data and self-selected peer groups will always tell a very different story than watching how players actually behave and make choices. We don't wanna make everything to maximize popularity, but when we do more niche characters (Nautilus, Lulu, Ziggs, Amumu, etc) they have to be a niche that still makes sense for our game, audience and IP. Going into niches that are essentially SUPER niche is a poor use of time better spent making something players actually want, and grotesque is really in this camp with our game, and our job is to make players like the game and like what we release, which I consider a win-win.

To take a look at the exaggerated version of this, if I made a champion me and my friends absolutely loved, but few other people liked, not only would it be foolish, but short-sighted and selfish of me. If we can make something everyone except me and my friends liked, then it'd be a really good idea to make it despite me not being into it (and we have a few champions in that category!). We want variety, but we also want to respond to what actually engages our players.

Fiora is very, very popular, as you might imagine. Lulu is less so, but people still play her.

Each player will have different tendencies, and that's why we don't just make one type of champion. If your interests are a bit more niche though, you'll always notice the amount of champions that don't appeal to you vs the ones that do.

My question is why can't we have a chubby female champion for once? They don't all have to be slender large breasted cover girls.

Where do you get this **** that characters have to be personable? Last I checked, this isn't an MMORPG in which you are constricted to 1 or a few characters to really focus on. In this game there are a plethora of them and having some different varieties is nice.

Look at Varus. I have seen so much hype over him from players, and even my friends have never been more excited for a champion...and he's a darker, corrupted, somewhat demonic champion.

Quit thinking that just because it is some monster type champion...it is a dungeon boss and therefore people will not relate. Maybe if the game wasn't full of humanoid champions...it would be easier to relate to a monster type champion in LoL. Also who can't relate to dungeon bosses? They are generally more interesting than your character, have a deep background, and are generally badass which I think is something people seek in this game.

Hey Morello, you cant deny that there is a market for interesting / abomination champs, have you considered making skins in this style to satisfy this section of the player base? Maybe the profit margins from the skins will also encourage the design of more evil looking champions....

Hey people who complain about too many cutsie champs and naked and stripper women, LOLWUT? did we not just get hecarim? Naut? Varus next path?

I think creating a "Void ooze volibear" skin would make everyone happy (and give kogmaw somebody to cuddle with)...

Personally i think we need more armored bear type champs, armored boar anyone? it can be cute with a grotesque ugly pig skin to make everyone happy =D