people are so retarded i swear lol. Nobody finds it odd/wrong that an AD CARRY, has a CROWD CONTROL ABILITY, that makes you want to ABANDON THE PERSON HIT.

Varus is definitely an AD carry following in the footsteps of utility carries - much like Ashe in this regard.

No, I'm listing champs who have potentially team wide CC that isn't on an ult..ok, except cass and maybe another one or two that i just threw in there.

My point is its an ult, why is it a big deal if it plays outside the boundaries a bit? His Ult hits one person, immobilizes for 2 seconds (minus tenacity) as it begins to snake towards another nearby champion...by the time it hits another one (unless everyone is bunched to begin with) the original immobilize is almost done, if not already done. So it seems to me to be more of a sequential immobilize that just might have a game changing effect if he waits to use it for the opportune moment...much like most of the other ults in the game. I mean really if his ult was just TONS OF DAMAGE, I'm pretty sure someone would have just whined about him doing too much damage and needing a nerf cause he outclasses every other AD carry in the game.

Why not wait until he comes out to start complaining about it, and even then I would wait till after his free week.

inb4 Riot comes in and tries to justify.

I guess Ashe has a team wide CC ult as well, though. It's what makes her such a solid pick.

Edit: ****, ninja'd by Xypherous! lol Too gud.

with a ton of damage to boot, not to mention a tank killer ability.

But Varus blatantly does more damage than Ashe... Ashe is balanced out by the fact that she has low damage traded for high utility. But Varus's kit can burst anyone down extremely well as well as giving him high utility...

Varus' damage is actually rather on the low-end of things from internal testing. His scaling isn't all that great and his steroids is pretty inaccessible.

Optimizing one aspect of his kit creates tradeoffs on other parts of the kit.

but why does he have a tank killing ability? Kog has his W but he doesn't have a strong CC ability

He's also got a channeled ability during which you cannot autoattack and are slowed.

You've got to keep that in mind. He's only really got 3 abilities to work with in a teamfight in the first place. There's a solid chance his Q is actually a liability as far as overall damage output as you get later in the game.

You could have an easily accessible steroid instead, but nope. Not so much.

Because every ultimate added to the game for some time has been either an aoe cc or a dash, and it will remain that way