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View Poll Results: Which matchmaking 'issue' is the most important to you? (See post for more details!)
1) AFKs in Champion Select Lobby 4,690 36.96%
2) Duo-Queue Elo Disparities in Ranked 910 7.17%
3) Skilled Ranked Players in Normal Modes 604 4.76%
4) Premade Matching 633 4.99%
5) Transitioning from Normal to Ranked Mode 1,282 10.10%
6) Free to Play Champions in Ranked Mode 792 6.24%
7) Random Champions in Ranked Mode 627 4.94%
8) Provisional Matches in Ranked 645 5.08%
9) Duo Queue Prevalence in Ranked 384 3.03%
10) Level Disparities 584 4.60%
11) Team Margin of Victory 1,538 12.12%
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Lofter ?? Senior Member
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05-10-2012

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Are you playing Normal Draft?
I'm having this issue in normal draft, out of my last 10 normal draft games played, ive been 4th/5th pick at least 8 times and I ended up having to play support.

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That begs the question: Is anything going to be done about that in normal draft? I know it's suppose to be random, but it isn't. Is there a fix anytime soon?
There's a fix going out soon.

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05-10-2012

For queue dodging can you make it a vote based system like surrenders?
If four or three (excluding you) on your team vote yes to letting you leave without penalty then you don't get a penalty, but if two or less vote yes then you get the dodge penalty.

This would make ranked, premades, and arguments quicker to resolve. If one guy has a problem with the group, then the group can vote no for letting him leave without penalty, wheras a premade may of made a mistake with their selections so they would need one player to leave, so in that case they could all vote yes to allow him to leave without penalty

I'm sure there could also be a time penalty for how long until players can vote again(five minutes first time, 15 for every instance afterwards) so that premades can't abuse the system by continuously leaving.
This would allow for more streamlined matchmaking processes, and give more choice to players.

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05-10-2012

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For queue dodging can you make it a vote based system like surrenders?
If four or three (excluding you) on your team vote yes to letting you leave without penalty then you don't get a penalty, but if two or less vote yes then you get the dodge penalty.

This would make ranked, premades, and arguments quicker to resolve. If one guy has a problem with the group, then the group can vote no for letting him leave without penalty, wheras a premade may of made a mistake with their selections so they would need one player to leave, so in that case they could all vote yes to allow him to leave without penalty

I'm sure there could also be a time penalty for how long until players can vote again(five minutes first time, 15 for every instance afterwards) so that premades can't abuse the system by continuously leaving.
This would allow for more streamlined matchmaking processes, and give more choice to players.
That seems to solve the problem of single-queued trolls having the option to grief others by making BS choices in champ select. If there is no penalty for leaving that's less reward for the troll because their behavior has no effect on the Elo of others.

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05-10-2012

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There's a fix going out soon.
Oh, so that's a bug/issue? I was wondering... Been playing mostly draft lately (normal & ranked solo/duo), and I'm almost always last-pick in normal draft, but first or second in ranked. Didn't really mind, but it was kind of odd. Also hard to "practice" for ranked that way, since I didn't get much practice being captain (and was always just filling in support or somethign).

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05-10-2012

Please, Please Lyte, remove the new champions in ranked... THIS is what happen....

Varus went 0/9 with 39 CS
This is a 1300 elo game but still.....

I mean, disable them for at least 1 week.... like 300 posts back there we were talking about not letting people use free week champions in ranked because this happens, they are playing champions they are not used to in the "tryhard" game....
New champions should be disabled from Ranked at least for 1 week. no one can jump in a Ranked game and say.... "Oh I completly dominated my first and only game with this new champion in bot game, he is OP I will easy win"

EDIT: Also.... we know new champs are really volatile. I know Riot try to do their best balancing champions, but sometimes they come either OP or UP, so having an insta OP champion or UP in ranked is not good either, 1 week off ranked games should be good to avoid that.

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Please, Please Lyte, remove the new champions in ranked... THIS is what happen....

Varus went 0/9 with 39 CS
This is a 1300 elo game but still.....

I mean, disable them for at least 1 week.... like 300 posts back there we were talking about not letting people use free week champions in ranked because this happens, they are playing champions they are not used to in the "tryhard" game....
New champions should be disabled from Ranked at least for 1 week. no one can jump in a Ranked game and say.... "Oh I completly dominated my first and only game with this new champion in bot game, he is OP I will easy win"

EDIT: Also.... we know new champs are really volatile. I know Riot try to do their best balancing champions, but sometimes they come either OP or UP, so having an insta OP champion or UP in ranked is not good either, 1 week off ranked games should be good to avoid that.
Free2Play Champions are being removed from Ranked Solo/Duo Queue soon unless you own the champions. We may revisit this policy in the future, but we are going to test this out.

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05-10-2012

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Free2Play Champions are being removed from Ranked Solo/Duo Queue soon unless you own the champions. We may revisit this policy in the future, but we are going to test this out.
My joy is great.

My smile is large.

MY NIPPLES ARE HARD.

Adding, I love the soon(tm) tag added to the Normal draft fix. Riot's soon(tm) has gotten much soon(tm)er since a few hiccups made you more, say, prude with releasing information.

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05-10-2012

I've benn meaning to ask,how would you categorize the people that play "seriously" normals/normal draft/ranked solo queue ?

Cause there are people like myself that find joy in playing only normals ,there are people that play only normal draft and the people who play only rankeds.
And yet again the last weeks i have come across people who "will not play seriously enough" cause its a normal game.Yes they may be 1800 elo in ranked ,but what gives them the right to destroy my fun by not playing 100% ?
I wont classify them as trolls or anything but there are close to that term in my eyes at least.

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Free2Play Champions are being removed from Ranked Solo/Duo Queue soon unless you own the champions. We may revisit this policy in the future, but we are going to test this out.
yes yes, but I'm afraid of New champions too, they cause the same problems as Free champions, are they going to be removed from Ranked Solo/Duo Queue too?

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