I enjoy playing viktor much more than I do ahri. I feel you can build viktor so many different ways and still be effective. Ive tried a nuke build, tanky mage build, even a kite build. With his augments it opens tons of possiblity.

Each has their own unique aspect and both can carry if you master them.

I play both quite often and I find them both very satisfying. The biggest difference in my mind is that Ahri is a champion with high mobility and lots of good matchups (and very few truly bad matchups) whereas Viktor has very high burst/trade potential and more polar matchups (some that are hugely in Viktor's favor and some that aren't).

Ahri

Hey man, since you're here...

Any chance that you guys at Riot are gonna fix Viktor's invisible laser bug anytime soon? I know you're probably not the person to ask, but you probably know said person who I should be asking.

I can't comment on the exact timing but we are aware of it and its prioritized the backlog. But obviously the backlog changes frequently (higher priority bugs creep up etc etc) so we don't like to mention timelines.

Fair enough. Good to know it's on your to-do list at least.

Thanks, bro.

I really like Viktor, he bursts really hard and his ultimate is one of my favorites in the game.

Viktor. If you're into champs with a high skill cap look no further than Viktor. His W is a non-ultimate AoE stun/slow which is absolutely backbreaking in team fights with proper usage. Add in his other skills and he's dishing out a bunch of AoE damage while constantly shielding himself. Ahri just has mobility.

Tentacool is an amazing Bulky Water type and Special Wall. I fail to see how that's "filler"

But on topic, Ahri is the General, FoTM choice, as she has,

~Boobs
~Sustain
~Strong Escapes
~Decent CC (If you can actually land it)
~Boobs
~Decent Damage
~Did I say Boobs? Prolly.

Viktor on the other hand, is the "Hipster" choice. He's extremely underrated and brings a lot of damage to the table. He gets really strong the more items he has, especially if you go Gravity Upgrade. He brings,

~Awesome Damage
~Excellent CC (If you can actually land it)
~Is fun and interesting
~Cyborg.

Overall, Ahri is the "safe" choice, Viktor is the "fun" choice, if you ask my of my opinion. Which you did.

Highly agreed with everything in your post until the very last line...
One does not simply "beat" an Ahri in lane.
One Outplays her.

You can poke with E? She can dodge (when she can see it- god that bug is utter BS).
She can poke with Q? You can dodge.
Gravity Field? Avoided. Charm? Dodged. About the only thing you have on her is a point-click Q, and yet, with just a little foresight she can land either part of W or even a Q on you while the shield's in transit and tie/win the trade.



ANYWAYS, since you've gotten all the Viktor mains already, here's an Ahri main's perspective XD

Firstly, in terms of pickup...
Ahri is much more forgiving than Viktor; you'll be doing decently much faster on her than on Vik. This is because she directly revolves around positioning and skillshots, meaning your raw skill at this game transfers into her at nearly 100%. Plus she's got that triple-longer-than-flash-dash on a CD that's between 1/3 and 1/4 the CD of flash. Vik on the other hand is likely to get dominated until you get the hang of him- at which point how you do in-lane will give you whiplash since people aren't used to vsing him at all.

In terms of skill cap...
Honestly they're about the same. The only difference is the length of the journey. Ahri goes from being decent once you pick her up to being godlike due to how well her kit rewards outplaying. Viktor goes from being trash tier to being godlike due to his kit being really quite strong- that ult is scary, and you'll be laughing with Vik every time you land an E. I know I was when I was playing him his free week XD

In terms of Laning...
Tobster hit this one perfectly- at least, for Ahri.
From my experience, the only champion that can *really* autowin vs Ahri is Talon (and probably Mantheon for a similar reason, but I haven't faced him mid yet). And that's entirely because I haven't had a chance to figure out the trick to beating him on her (only faced it once; theorized like all hell since lol). Morganna has to land her snares to be a threat to you, Galio has to land his spells to be a threat to you (and you're one of the few that can solo-handle his ult if you time Charm right), Kassadin has to play passively to have a good chance (because if he towerdives and you haven't been slacking, you just won). All three aren't able to pull their Usual Anti-Magic-Damage BS as well because Ahri's AA animation is INCREDIBLY clean (as well as her starting AA stats being pretty good for a caster) on top of her Q's True Damage. Ryze flat out cannot trade with her until late game meaning his counter to her is incredibly reliant on how his side-lanes are doing and configured. Malzahar will just make her really really really really really really really really really really really really mad: Voidling will ALWAYS tank charm NO EXCEPTIONS; his facelazor requires you to buy a QSS because unless he's an idiot or you're terrible, every single team fight he's going to ult you until you do; plus you cannot sustain keeping up with his ability to push without having blue buff. I mean, there are some hard matches, but for the most part, it all boils down to skill with her. Even LB can be beaten by Ahri in-lane- it's just dependent on how well you predict her blinks and how well she predicts yours.
Viktor.... Dunno, don't play him enough to really have a feel for him.


In terms of Fun...
Both are highly fun especially once you get good. Vik will have you spouting his cheesy assimilation jokes on All Chat and laughing maniacally while you do it, and Ahri will have you asking your team if they trust you before every game. When the fighting starts, Ahri's darting around having her way with the other team's HP bars with her short CDs and Spell Vamp keeping her alive, and Vik is creating huge zones of I-don't-wanna-fight-here-oh-god-why-ow and reliably cockblocking the Kat. During laning, Vik's E is oodles of fun, and Ahri has some amazingly satisfying dance partners (LB and Akali are probably the best; Kass would be if you didn't normally have to bait a towerdive to kill him). Really, they work out to about the same in this category.


I say get both =P Why? Because I'm not you and I'm not going to make your decisions for you.