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"Empire" Nunu ruined?

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DotEleven ?? Senior Member
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05-24-2012

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Morello did say it wasn't gonna happen though.
Morello said it might not, he didn't know, and would have to check.

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While I don't think this is going in this patch (would have to check), readability is not something we want power to come from. If something is strong because people can't see it or react to it, then we have no interest in maintaining that as a quality of why a skill is good - all skills should be readable and understandable.

If a skill or character is underperforming, there are countless ways to deal with this other than making him harder to see.

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Morello said it might not, he didn't know, and would have to check.
You could read the ability and react to it previously, though. In fact, vision of the ultimate is unnecessary to know that you've been caught. Most people know they've been hit by the ultimate when they slow down to a crawl. From here, most players either try to get out (and sometimes succeed), or try to beeline towards the suspect bush in an attempt to CC him out of it. This is now infinitely easier, and there's not compensation for the champion along with the change, which is why I hope it's a glitch.

The change to Cho'Gath's spell was necessary as it was annoying how you'd never know exactly where it was in the bush (it was too hard to see). I expect that Kog'Maw's ultimate was changed as well so that it was easier to judge where it was when placed in a brush?

And how exactly do you plan on using Nunu's ultimate now whatsoever? In fact, how often did you see Nunu in competitive matches before this huge nerf to his ultimate?

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You could read the ability and react to it previously, though. In fact, vision of the ultimate is unnecessary to know that you've been caught. Most people know they've been hit by the ultimate when they slow down to a crawl. From here, most players either try to get out (and sometimes succeed), or try to beeline towards the suspect bush in an attempt to CC him out of it.

And how exactly do you plan on using Nunu's ultimate now whatsoever? In fact, how often did you see Nunu in competitive matches before this huge nerf to his ultimate?
Um... what? I was just telling the person who said that Morello said the change to Cho's Q wasn't going in was wrong.

And I'm pretty sure the sole reason Nunu was taken in tournaments wasn't just his ult. He still has his AS/MS steroid for carries, and an AS/MS slow for the enemy carries.

Edit: Also, I have no problem with them making Nunu invis in the bush again. But I still think the graphics for his ult going off should show. This is no different than if Katarina's daggers, Kennen's Lightning Strikes, or Morg's Chains didn't show while she ulted in a bush.

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Um... what? I was just telling the person who said that Morello said the change to Cho's Q wasn't going in was wrong.

And I'm pretty sure the sole reason Nunu was taken in tournaments wasn't just his ult. He still has his AS/MS steroid for carries, and an AS/MS slow for the enemy carries.
It was a response to the quote, not you. Readability with Nunu's ultimate has always been there, so it'd be an unjustified reason for changing it.

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It was a response to the quote, not you. Readability with Nunu's ultimate has always been there, so it'd be an unjustified reason for changing it.
Well, that quote was actually towards people talking about the change to Cho'Gath's Q not Nunu's ult.

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05-24-2012

Bumpin for great Empiring Justice.

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jboie1184 ?? Member
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05-24-2012

Is it a bug or not?

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MCPUMPKIN ?? Senior Member
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05-24-2012

Refusing to let this die.

Celebratory bump as I just got accepted into University.

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05-24-2012

Confirmed to be a bug.

We are discussing solution/rollout options.

No guarantees when, but it will be fixed.

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Luxaris ?? Member
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05-24-2012

i think it was intended, since morello's said the power of a champion shouldn't come from him being hard to see, how many times nunu catched you in a teamfight because with all the sh*t going up in a teamfight u didn't realized u were slowed? that shouldn't happen, it's not fair to the enemies gettin 1000+ damage because they can't see you...

I love nunu and i love doing that, but u gotta admit that is not fair...nor it is to get that nerfed and not getting anything for it...

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