Originally Posted by Lyte

Sure, Elo is a representation of several variables and your "team play" skills is one of them. However, how many people queue dodge because of a toxic player in the lobby? How many players queue dodge because of team composition? How many players queue dodge because they did not get the lane they wanted?

For the players who queue dodge because of an extremely toxic player... what does that have to do with being not a team player? Should they lose Elo for this decision or should they force themselves to play 35 minutes with a toxic player?

-Elo will deter some players from queue dodging for some of the above reasons. However, if we keep increasing time bans, I guarantee you at some magical threshold, players will also stop queue dodging to avoid the time bans.

Originally Posted by Dex7ter

op duo

Originally Posted by Lyte

Sure, Elo is a representation of several variables and your "team play" skills is one of them. However, how many people queue dodge because of a toxic player in the lobby? How many players queue dodge because of team composition? How many players queue dodge because they did not get the lane they wanted?

For the players who queue dodge because of an extremely toxic player... what does that have to do with being not a team player? Should they lose Elo for this decision or should they force themselves to play 35 minutes with a toxic player?

-Elo will deter some players from queue dodging for some of the above reasons. However, if we keep increasing time bans, I guarantee you at some magical threshold, players will also stop queue dodging to avoid the time bans.

Originally Posted by Princess Garnet

I don't understand why you would even consider taking Ignite for Galio mid (especially against Morgana; you are NOT going to kill her as Galio even if you take Ignite). If you took teleport you could have helped the bottom lane better.

Originally Posted by jokull

lol bro looks like you lose your lane by yourself well before the duo queue had anything to do with it. plus the corki outperformed you on amount of kills involved in. duo wasnt the reason you lost that

Originally Posted by Princess Garnet

I am not 100% sure if I understand your point, but I think it does. Assuming one values Elo (which is the whole point of ranked games), and he is put into a situation which:

1. Either play the game in the unfavourable matchup (e.g. got counterpicked), and have a high chance of losing and lose Elo;
2. Dodge, receive no Elo penalty, and gets a time penalty instead.

I think the choice is fairly obvious, because Elo is gained through winning than losing, not purely through time. Therefore any action that minimizes the possibility of losing is favourable and encouraged.

Originally Posted by Black Sky QQ

Who came up with the idea that it is suddenly A-Ok to ban people for 14 days from the game for simply queue dodging ranked games?
Because frankly that is plain stupid. I would understand a 14 days ban from playing ranked games if you queue dodge too much but from the game?
Come on what are you people thinking.
Also what exactly makes queue dodging ranked games a ban worthy offense?

/very disappointed

Originally Posted by Dex7ter

i kill her but i shouldt help bot lane that was my mistake.

u didnt see corki farm ?

Originally Posted by Lyte

I haven't revealed any details about how many queue dodges you would need to do to get the punishment, or what the punishment levels look like--so let's not jump to crazy conclusions that players will be banned for 14 days for queue dodging 1 Ranked Game.

This is an experiment that we are going to keep iterating on and figuring out what the right values are. The goal is to have a Ranked atmosphere that has very few queue dodges and an environment players can not intentionally abuse to lower their Elo to 300 to stomp lower tier players.