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@Riot, Does "pushing the bar" mean pushing my wallet too?

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07-01-2012

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You can unlock all the champions for $0.00 with time.
You see, these kinds of arguments are utterly infuriating. When valuing skins, people will say, "skins aren't necessary to play the game". I'll give you that. Let's talk about the content of the game then, the champions. If you were to unlock every single original champion with IP, the cost when evaluating your time spent at the rate of minimum wage would be more than straight out buying with RP.

 
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07-01-2012

Riot can charge whatever they want for whatever they want and you gullible ****ers will pay for it because it looks cool.

 
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Price is relative to the person. Not everyone will find the same value for everything. Some people won't buy PFE because it's overpriced for them. Some people will see it as just the right price and purchase it. Both situations are fine, and we expect that. That's why he's at the price point he's at.

We also will have skins at lower price points so others interested in getting high quality skins can still do so. They won't be as cool as a future PFE, but they will still be worth it for people willing to pay that lower price.
Twenty-five bucks for a skin? Holy moly! I mean, I believe you that you'll maximize your income at that price, so nothing against Riot for finding the right price. But people are willing to spend 25 bucks on a skin? A lot of people? Holy carp. That's my weekly food budget.

 
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07-01-2012

imho if prices were lower, there would be more profit. More people would have the ability to purchase what they want and enjoy the game even more.

I'm not suggesting a big price cut (or a lot more RP per dollar), just more balance in pricing.

 
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Originally Posted by RiotMontag View Post
Price is relative to the person. Not everyone will find the same value for everything. Some people won't buy PFE because it's overpriced for them. Some people will see it as just the right price and purchase it. Both situations are fine, and we expect that. That's why he's at the price point he's at.

We also will have skins at lower price points so others interested in getting high quality skins can still do so. They won't be as cool as a future PFE, but they will still be worth it for people willing to pay that lower price.
The problem with occluding a single skin or even a specific set of skins into that price range is that this game, while containing many variables(champions, skills, items), is still very focused on single variables that are specific to the player's experience.

Not every person who is an Ezreal player, who is as in love with that champions theme, play, and kit as much as I am with Lee is going to be able to afford that. There has to be a huge justification and a certainty before going after that. Not everyone has disposable income and that is the place people with money will always argue, if you can't afford it don't play it, which is a really narrow-minded stance.

I know for a FACT I will be buying every single Lee Sin skin that is ever released because there was never and probably will never be a champ you guys put out that I enjoy as much as lee, but even then its going to be really hard for me to justify a 25$ skin.

I can honestly say that from a standpoint where you are motivating players to spend money. Not only is it more fair to offer a lower price like 2$ to 5$ especially when you look at legacy skins, but it is more motivating for a consumer to pick up three or four skins at that price.

Here --> http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...0/22015339.jpg
Is a video recording of the CEO of EA talking about microtransactions and while it is probably the worst example I can come up with and will probably get me a ton of downvotes it is very true that players are more motivated to spend money in smaller amounts at higher frequencies.

I'm not saying that you should offer up PFE at 5$, but I don't think that you guy should put him on that high of a pedestal if what you are actually trying to do is raise the bar.

Not raise the bar, and lower the ground, which is what you are doing.

 
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07-01-2012

I would pay 100 dollars to see MF strip up

 
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Originally Posted by RiotMontag View Post
Price is relative to the person. Not everyone will find the same value for everything. Some people won't buy PFE because it's overpriced for them. Some people will see it as just the right price and purchase it. Both situations are fine, and we expect that. That's why he's at the price point he's at.

We also will have skins at lower price points so others interested in getting high quality skins can still do so. They won't be as cool as a future PFE, but they will still be worth it for people willing to pay that lower price.
Your content costs as much as a whole expansion...Thats nuts. The people who buy PFE are giving into riots greed.

 
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07-01-2012

The real fact is: Riot is pushing the bar to nowhere. LoL contains low polycount 3d models with low resolution textures designed for the isometric view of the game. Even the most advance skin in the LoL repertoire is a few days leisure job for a serious 3d artist. They don't even worth 5$, not 25$.

 
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Your content costs as much as a whole expansion...Thats nuts. The people who buy PFE are giving into riots greed.
I like to think that, if you're going to opt in to buy something in League of Legends, it's because you see the value in it. We really try to make sure people want to buy something and don't feel they need to making the function and power of the game equal for everyone but allowing you to purchase aesthetics that match your personality and interests. I think we do that pretty well, and I do not equate it to greed whatsoever.

 
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The real fact is: Riot is pushing the bar to nowhere. LoL contains low polycount 3d models with low resolution textures designed for the isometric view of the game. Even the most advance skin in the LoL repertoire is a few days leisure job for a serious 3d artist. They don't even worth 5$, not 25$.
Lol dude, seriously, learn how to code, then I dare you say the same **** again, really.