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View Poll Results: Which matchmaking 'issue' is the most important to you? (See post for more details!)
1) AFKs in Champion Select Lobby 4,694 36.83%
2) Duo-Queue Elo Disparities in Ranked 919 7.21%
3) Skilled Ranked Players in Normal Modes 608 4.77%
4) Premade Matching 635 4.98%
5) Transitioning from Normal to Ranked Mode 1,289 10.11%
6) Free to Play Champions in Ranked Mode 793 6.22%
7) Random Champions in Ranked Mode 628 4.93%
8) Provisional Matches in Ranked 650 5.10%
9) Duo Queue Prevalence in Ranked 390 3.06%
10) Level Disparities 590 4.63%
11) Team Margin of Victory 1,550 12.16%
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07-05-2012

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Originally Posted by Aparkhurst View Post
What does this mean to a smurf that gets matched EXCLUSIVELY with/against level 30 players? Will it just be a queue time multiplier for the same quality of games, or will this put you with low level players again?
You'll just wait a bit longer to see if we can find lower level, high-skilled players similar to yourself, or you will break out and still match against Level 30s after a few minutes in the queue.

 
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07-05-2012

In terms of ELO gain:

Myself and a platinum player sometimes duo queue in ranked. If we lost the game, I used to lose a smaller amount of elo (around 10), and he used to lose a larger (around 20). If we won, I gained the normal amount of Elo (13-15) and he would gain a tiny amount (around 5).

Recently, I have noticed that winning or losing, EVERYONE gains/loses a small amount in the game (~5 elo). If we win, we gain around 5, if we lose, we lose around 5.


What was the reasoning behind this change?

 
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Chovy152 ?? Senior Member
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07-05-2012

Instead of permabanning. Just put all offensive players into one queue. Lessens incentive to just make a new account and ruin hundreds of new games.

 
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07-05-2012

Alright, so this is a matchmaking example I suppose.

I am duo queuing with a buddy of mine. We are, at most 100 point in Elo different. I end up in a lobby with another duo queue on my team, and one random person. We get the typical annoying calling out of stuff, which I honestly do not care about as I feel at least comfortable in all roles. So 1st and 5th pick are together, and my buddy and I are 2nd and 4th pick. Pick and bans go fine. We have a top Mundo, and a jungle Irelia(5th pick) which is not optimal, but I have played with them before and they are usually alright. We are also on the Purple team, which usually indicates we are the higher overall Elo team(in matchmaking's Eyes at least).

We go into game. My buddy and I are bottom lane by happenstance, we didn't call anything out. We get invaded at level 1 at blue. Typical stuff. We all help our mid get away(well me and my buddy. Irelia stayed in the bush near blue). 30 seconds later. First blood from our mid. As soon as he dies. "Noob team" It just went down from there. I tried to stay positive for the first 25 minutes or so. In which time the Fizz(mid) repeatedly tells me to "STFU Janna". The top Lane Mundo gets obliterated between bad plays, and poor jungle ganks on our team, and good ones on theirs. We are pushed to our tower, which leads to a quadra gank about 14 minutes into the game.

This goes on for 35 minutes or so. The opposing Varus taunting our team(I had muted Fizz, Irelia, and Mundo at this point) talking how he is 1500 and this is a Smurf. We got outplayed. No doubt about it. The game ends. I lose 6 Elo, which clearly shows I was "supposed" to lose the game as I did not lose my typical 10-15 Elo. The Mundo had 1 ranked win , and this is just below 1000 ranking. Fizz has 26 Wins. Irelia has 36 wins.

Did the duo queue from the both of our groups inflate us to such a high level we get faced with people 225 Elo above our highest currently ranked player or something? The Fizz was not a great player, but I felt bad that he got sandwiched with 2 duo queued groups.(His attitude was also awful). I will admit, I did snap with 1 comment after the first 20 minutes or so, but after abuse for a while, you do lose it from time to time.

 
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07-06-2012

why ranked quo is allowed when some playes have problems with connect and dc all game ???

 
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07-06-2012

i dont get mid so i troll and he troll op duo with 1281, i dont get 1 blue 1 gang and if he come he just get minions, op duo


again fall thx to dc, afk rage and trolls, np riot u dont need to fix it or ban trolls

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07-06-2012

I think the transition from Normal to Ranked is of great concern.

 
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07-06-2012

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Originally Posted by rubixnoob View Post
I think the transition from Normal to Ranked is of great concern.
i agree but i dont think normal hidden elo at normal games are so much expanded.

 
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Dex7ter ?? Senior Member
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07-06-2012

op temo after 600 wins still trol ranked games, mid and jungler help them a lot my jungler hmm i dont know if i have jungler, i love games like this.


yes i was afk.

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07-06-2012

this is proof why if u go higher u get more trolls !!!!
last pick graves and lee with vampic sceptar who start at golems and then go all the map for blue and die epic.....

graves 47 wins op troll with lee

i win my lane and then i just go w8 until we can surrender no point of trying with trolls and carrry them


i should doge this game

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