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Morello Morello's Avatar ?? Lead Content Designer
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07-20-2012

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I have question about this new monster champ, Morello. You said in few months, but will it be in this year or rather in 2013?
This year, yes.

 
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D Woulfe ?? Senior Member
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07-20-2012

Morello, if you guys had just hired me then you'd have all of the archetypes you ever needed. Srsly.

http://redd.it/vuezf

http://redd.it/vr3t7

http://redd.it/woknv

See?

Old Dude, Two headed monster, and Guy-who's-way-older-than-he-looks

 
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07-20-2012

Really hope the epic monster is another Voidian being, maybe Kog's daddy?

 
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07-20-2012

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I think 2-3 is the right number, due to how many people prefer supports.

We tend to not want to do more than 4-5 a year of any role, I don't know why this is a problem :P
Your right less people prefer supports but...Since with this meta that you guys seem to endorse someone is forced to play support in every game so even though less people prefer it there is still one in almost every game just like Junglers, Tops, Mids and AD carries. Also the way alot of people talk the reason they dont prefer supports is because there are so few supports to actually pick from. For instance if you wanted to play top lane you probably have an upwards of 50 champions to pick from that are all "viable" top lanes(When I say viable I mean more at the average skill level, I do not play in tournys and am not really sure what the pros consider "Viable"). But if you look at the support role you have like 8-10?

It just seems like you guys really neglect the support role, I have heard lots of Rioters(Maybe even you Morello I cant remember) say that they discourage passive play so I can understand not releasing more Sorokas that are pretty much built for passive play but more Blitzcranks or Leonas that actually encourage aggressive play seem like a good Idea, I dont mean carbon copies of Blitz and Leona obviously I just mean that type of support. It seems like if your forced to play the 0 CS support role in the current Meta you should at least be able to have some variety in who you play.

 
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07-20-2012

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Originally Posted by DreamsOfGrandeur View Post
Morello, is there any chance Riot will stop and say "We have enough Tanky DPS types for now", wrap up the ones in design, and stop designing them for a while?

I'm pretty confident the community would not mind if you released a succession of casters, carries, and supports.



I also feel that the meta is currently favoring bruisers/fighters partly because they have the biggest minority in the game's archetypes. Here are the numbers roughly:

Assassins: Less then 15
Tanks: Less than 15
Supports: Less than 15
Carries: Less than 20
Casters: Less then 30
Fighters: More then 30

I use less/more statements because so I can't be completely certain of the count and want to avoid overlap, but don't want to go counting one-by-one, so I was using the Tag system on the pvp.net to sort.

Don't worry, I used my better judgment to check. I based my sorting
Example1: Lee Sin tagged as an Assassin, but not a Fighter. (But clearly plays like a fighter)
Example2: Xin Zhao is tagged as an Assassin and a Fighter (placed into fighter category)
Example3: Cho'Gath is classified as a Mage and a fighter (placed into fighter category)

There are also nearly 10 more melee champions then ranged champions. That's 3 months worth of developed champions!
(I don't know the exact number difference, because the sorter is buggy. It displays 101 total champs, but only 55 melee and 45 ranged. 1 missing?!)

There is a clear bias towards melee champions when it comes to Riot's accomplished work on champions.

I think most the community would enjoy it if Riot refocused their work towards ranged champions to compensate for this statistical anomaly. (Cause it's definitely not intentional, right?)
We have slowed down on fighters, though we'll still release them. This is largely from when we didn't plan role releases.

Additionally, we want fighters to feel more unique and special (Jayce) when we do make them.

 
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07-20-2012

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Originally Posted by DanteMustDie44 View Post
Your right less people prefer supports but...Since with this meta that you guys seem to endorse someone is forced to play support in every game so even though less people prefer it there is still one in almost every game just like Junglers, Tops, Mids and AD carries. Also the way alot of people talk the reason they dont prefer supports is because there are so few supports to actually pick from. For instance if you wanted to play top lane you probably have an upwards of 50 champions to pick from that are all "viable" top lanes(When I say viable I mean more at the average skill level, I do not play in tournys and am not really sure what the pros consider "Viable"). But if you look at the support role you have like 8-10?

It just seems like you guys really neglect the support role, I have heard lots of Rioters(Maybe even you Morello I cant remember) say that they discourage passive play so I can understand not releasing more Sorokas that are pretty much built for passive play but more Blitzcranks or Leonas that actually encourage aggressive play seem like a good Idea, I dont mean carbon copies of Blitz and Leona obviously I just mean that type of support. It seems like if your forced to play the 0 CS support role in the current Meta you should at least be able to have some variety in who you play.
If you consider Leona and Blitz supports, then I think we'll see more. I'm talking "pure support."

 
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07-20-2012

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Lovecraft is a bit old and outdated for something more in modern fantasy
Nyaruko-san begs to differ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiyore!_Nyaruko-san

 
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07-20-2012

Morello would you mind answering to what I said before please? I think it's rather interesting...

 
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US Economy ?? Senior Member
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07-20-2012

Morello, Ezreal mentioned a female boar champion, like a year or two ago. Guessing it got scrapped? Cause I was looking forward to it ;(

 
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07-20-2012

You say 4-5 of each role (except support) per year, but it seems like with Jayce you're trying to stretch the meta a bit. Are we gonna see more champs that challenge the meta?

Can we see this stats for how much each champ is played?