My apologies, I didn't realize you oversaw the implementation of League of Legends and the Twisted Treeline, and as such you understand exactly what Riot had in mind when they created TT.

1. What E1C said.

2. See number 3 for why number 2 is a stupid statement. You clearly do not think they are the same unless it suits the argument you are trying to make.

3.^

4. It isn't a beloved strategy. Most good teams would never let you turtle on TT or punish you for turtling. This has been discussed extensively and teh conclusion was that yes you can do it but no it isn't a viable strategy and unless the people you are playing against suck you will probaby will lose (especially if your plan was to turtle from the start)

5. 3v3 is based around the early game, jungle control and early ganking to deny this is you just being silly for the sake of an argument. If a team gets the first two dragons they will almost certainly win the game even on even kills unless a)they mess up really badly or they b) got totally outpicked.

I have hundreds of replays where I can show this and I'm sure almost everyone else does too. If you have any replays that display a team losing where they didn't get outpicked, dominated early game and didn't mess up feel free to share them. You'll need pretty substantial evidence though as all of us together probably have 1000s of replays disproving this.

taking the inhib will always be a risk if you take the inhib YOU must kill the nexus turret at the least otherwise you'll more than likely lose

The people who complain about turtling on TT are Darius Yi Xin and Tryn who get mad because they get kited, pulled, knocked, or (Yes I'm looking at you Singed) Flinged into the fountain and get aced. They complain because they have bad placement and blame it on the game.

If you cant win a 3v3 because the other team is "turtling" you clearly suck at 3s. There are many ways to get past it. Get better at 3s

Turtling is fine. It's the placement of the fountain that is broken. It's ridiculous that you can so easily kite and entire wave of superminions into the fountain to their death, not to mention a thousand other exploits with the proximity of the fountain.

All I see in this post is "the map is the way it is, therefore it is the way it should be." A strange form of just-world fallacy. Just because something IS, doesn't mean it couldn't be better. I know people have been *****ing for years about this, but that doesn't make it any less true. Move the fountain back a few paces and this map is 1000 times more fun.

The only thing problematic with the fountain laser range is that it is different for each side. I don't care which range they use, but they need to fix it so they are both the same.

A game has to be fun and not lame at all levels of play, not just at the level cap.

No game is like this. Chess is not fun for everyone and has been played for centuries.

with this logic losing should be abolished