I think it's a viable line of thought. AD sion is largely not viable, not because he doesnt do what he does crazily well, but because all it takes is an exhaust or a stun and a team of people to hit him once and he is dead. He is fully capable of stomping people, and someone who spent the time to practice as him would probably succeed.

But the idea is that the effort invested into that champion would be better spent elsewhere, if you are looking for elo. Not saying you are.

I went through a kick where I wanted to master master yi. This went for about two weeks, and I got fairly good at him. Then I hit a brick wall, and stopped improving. I played a game of nocturne (who had been released for about 2 weeks at that time), and recognized that I did better than I was doing on yi. I played some nocturne, and lo and behold, I was winning more with nocturne, because he was simply more viable than yi. Since then, my champion choices have largely been a path of least resistance, as opposed to brute forcing something that doesn't work that well.

Removing options sucks though, as a general rule, and that is definitely happening.

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AD Sion is only not viable because he has no gap closer. If Sion had a gap closer, you'd see people abusing the **** out of that ult, his passive health scaling, his incredible amount of AD he can get.

I'm high mobility assassin type of person, and all assassins suffer much of the same problems. I'd play LB, but I hate mana and she falls off too hard. I'd play Shaco, but I don't like jungling. I'd play Talon, but he was nerfed too hard. I'd play Eve, but she sucks. And so on down the list of Assassins.

Clearly you dont know how to play eve since Iv seen some people own with her since her changes


Also sorry but playing rank from normal games truly dont mean **** but I and many of the people I play with that play rank can easily own AD Kat

I'd play Kat but her new run is ugly
Jk I'll just close my eyes..

This just isn't the case. Her W still scales off AD and is a TON of your damage. Having two abilities scale off AD would be detrimental to her itemization. It's very tricky when you do magic damage with AD items because it limits your options to a few select pure AD items with no attack speed or crit. Gunblade is still awesome on her.


Edit: Her ult also scales off AD still, making a further case for gunblade. In addition, you now have another spammable spell to spellvamp off of while BB is on cooldown. You also don't have to burn shunpo to help last hit anymore, meaning it can always be up in case you get ganked.

Definitely. Kat has none of those things, but she does have an excellent gap closer. Allow me to provide a more fitting example then: master yi. He is able to be played, and his raw damage potential is even greater than katarinas, while having a point and click gap closer. He can be played, but as a general rule, there is going to be a better choice than master yi for whatever spot you pick him for. AD katarina is similar. She brings massive damage to the table, but gets squished just like yi. Both have their quirkiness (kat being able to jump to wards and allies, yi having meditate and unable to be slowed), but in essence, the reason that they aren't played in the same: someone throws a stun at you, and then you die in under a second.

AP kat has the same flaw, but she frontloads her burst and generally builds more defensively, which is why I think she ends up being the "more viable" katarina. AD kat does exist, I acknowledge that, but I think AP will remain the generally played and largely more useful build.

it doesn't matter, u have to be in their face to use ur w and u just get blown up and if u buy items to keep u alive then u do no damage. BB was great for harass now it's mediocre in comparison. I've played like 10 games already with new kat on PBE and she's definitely 100% weaker