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Orianna's Q has 825 range but a cast range display override of 815 -- try casting Q ever so slightly out of range on Zyra and Orianna and observe that Zyra's range is true while Orianna's is just a bit larger than the cast ring.

I like to make my range indicators as accurate as possible, on the theory that knowledge is power, but a lot of our designers fudge them shorter.

that makes sense O.o

i guess that range indicator mistake still exists from prenerf?

Are you happy with Orianna at the moment? I feel like her damage is definitely underwhelming unless really fed. Otherwise her ult does pitiful damage compared to other burst casters like Annie or Gragas, who both have additional elements to their ultimates like Orianna does.

I haven't spoken to Xyph about this, but I find it more likely that he did this intentionally. As I mentioned, a lot of designers operate on the theory that players become frustrated when their spell narrowly misses.

i remember when i was going against the orianna nerfs, a red did mention orianna's range was a bit bigger than the indicator.

im sure its intentional, but its still a mistake regardless imo
i guess you could call it a mismatch? discrepancy? idk

also, @amplisix
i feel orianna is pretty good atm.
she isnt a burst mage. shes a dps-focused mage who can burst. abuse her low cooldowns and she does a lot of damage (just get the blue/mana items so you can abuse them)

For me, Orianna is definitely not the easiest champ to play, but one of the most rewarding.

I am not really the best person to ask about her balance, but as a Rioter, I would say that I am pretty happy with Orianna. She is incredibly strong overall -- what she gives up in raw damage output she makes up for in utility. I think comparing Annie to Orianna is a mistake because Annie cannot persistently facilitate her team's success to the same degree Orianna can.

Also, regarding her Q, the ball does a 175 radius pulse of circular aoe on the end, giving it an effective range of 1000.

Ahhh I see. I always wondered why I could target a little bit outside of the ring. This makes sense now. Would be nice if the displayed range matched the actual range just for the sake of truly knowing my maximum range, but I can live with it.

Thank you for responding!