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Originally Posted by Morello
I don't have a lot of time, but I'll comment here - I've commented on a LOT of the support threads with this information, so I'll try to share the biggest points;
* Support always get nerfed, so you guys hate them!
Supports always get nerfed because they provide an amazing amount of power, and always continue to do so after the nerfs - Janna, Soraka, Sona, Lulu were ALL used in the latest tournaments, along with off-supports like Nunu and Leona. We even rebuffed Sona after we saw her stop seeing use. I like the design of many supports (Janna, Lulu especially) and think they add a lot of good gameplay to League.
* Well, support are only good because there's a few of them.
This is a fallacy - if supports were actually bad, you'd see no "true support" (above listed ones) used and all lanes would be kill lanes featuring Leona, Blitz, etc. A classification of characters seeing frequent play means, by definition, they're not overnerfed or too weak. It would be like saying ranged carries are weak because only three are seeing tournament play.
* Being nerfed feels bad and makes support players feel bad.
This is what I think makes these threads happen, and is a totally valid way to feel. The right approach to this argument is in this vein, and not talking about balance because supports are very viable and balanced at all levels of play - talking about balance instead makes the arguments much less valid.
However, supports do get nerfed a lot and that feels bad, that's clear. It's necessary though because making a classification of players feel good is something that takes a back seat to tight balance.
* You release too few supports.
We also agree here, which is why I've talked about it in the other threads - we're going to release at least 2 supports per calendar year to make sure there's more being done. I also think us not doing well here makes support feel more marginalized than we care for it to be.
We can't respond to every thread when 20 are made about the same subject. This information does exist, so help us out and share this with people! When there's lots of threads, it's harder to get centralized information about subjects people care about.
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Except in most games I see now a days, there's about 1-2 actual supports, then about 3-4 kill lanes.
Most of my ranked (1200 elo) go kill lane. Blitz/Leona/Naut/Alistar/ are all the most common picks? Kill lanes, alistar being the only one with a heal, and one of the top 3 op abilities as said by Phreak.
Supports? Soraka, the ODD time... NEVER a sona because she's squishy and her poke power may be there still, but against a kill lane? She goes in to poke, she dies....easy as that. Kill lanes are taking over, hands down. Taric is about the only support (next to alistar, but I consider that kill lane with the cc chain) that I ever see anymore.
Who's Zilean, Who's Karma, Who's Lux, Who's Shen, Who's Morgana, Who's Teemo? They're top/mid/jungle, not supports... never played as support, ever... neither is nid, galio... The only real supports you will ever see, Taric, Soraka, Janna. The REAL support lanes? Leona, Blitz, Alistar, Naut, Hell I've seen a few rivens pop up. Voli support, Mundo support, tanky supports... That's the way the meta is changing from what I've seen.
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