Originally Posted by Metabot

Except for in poker you dont have to rely on anyone but urself

Originally Posted by xLostxxSoulx

You're also forgetting a variable called luck. o.o

Originally Posted by magik8ball

Let's all downvote OP, because statistics don't make sense.

Originally Posted by DriedPrunes

no one really cares.

Ranked is all about hyper carrying bad players. It's easier to blame team mates than trying to hyper carry 4 bad team mates.

Originally Posted by Metabot

Except for in poker you dont have to rely on anyone but urself

Originally Posted by Wayfear

I see a billion of these threads and I see a huge analogy to poker.

Poker, like league of legends, is a game with a tremendous amount of variance between hands (and games). In poker, like league of legends, you can lose tons of money (or Elo) even when you do everything right due to a bad beat (or trolls).

However, the fact that your relative skill level does not always affect the outcome of the hand (or game) does not mean that you do not have an edge (or lack thereof) and will not eventually go to your correct skill level. In poker, this takes literally tens of thousands of hands. I played pretty serious poker and whenever someone would ask whether they were "winning" in a game the response would always be "come back in fifty thousand hands." In league, reaching your "true" elo may also take hundreds or thousands of games.

The cause of the elo hell myth is the mistaken belief that the high variance inherent in league means that you have no control over your wins or loses. That is also the myth of the poker players who only lose to "bad beats." There are also psychological similarities, like how "raging" is close to going "on tilt," but that is outside the scope of this post.

The multiple examples of plat players dodging down to 400 elo and almost immediately carrying their way out clearly shows that the more relative advantage you have over your opponent, the more quickly your rating will adjust to your true rating:

For a good example, see:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=1826210

The fact is, the relative skill level you have above or below your opponents will cause you to gain and lose elo over the long term. Or, maybe I'm wrong, and you only lose in league because of "trolls" and only lose at poker because of "bad beats."