the title says it all.... maybe im just missing something but when im suppose to be a tank and at the point when ashe completely rapes you whats the point?

now im not saying that ashe is the only one i have seen warwick and yi totally 1 man win games also but at least they are melee.. she just slows you and rapes you and you just have to take it


... now no im not going into detail so ill get flammed but seriously wtf do you do against 1k crit hits? every shot

You don't let them farm - that's how you stop them.

Are you a DotA player? Because although physical DPS late game can be pretty nasty if kept unchecked, DotA's was FAR harder to stop and generally even more powerful. Ashe is very weak health - wise with no escape mechanism - complete food to a competent Ryze or other ganker.

Suggestions versus a Farmed Ashe:
Judicator, Invulnerability. Don't be the first to die. If Ashe gets a kill, Q her and she's stuck in a long stun.
Alistar, 75% Damage Reduction. Blink+Pulverize+Headbutt toward your team/a tower.
Rammus, Defense Curl. Tons of Armor and Magic Resist. Taunt her while your teammates focus her down.

Anyone with a stun should have her be the primary focus, and your team should kill her before ever touching someone else.

Ok, a quick edit to what I said above: DotA's DPS is not so much higher, per se, just a lot harder to stop. Most of that can be attributed to BKB - the way to stop a farmed carry is to disable them and focus them down - in DotA they can kill you before you can land a single disable.

but the problem is... even tho ASHE does 99% of the damage we cant just focus her cause she will kite while the other 4 gnaw our legs off :-\ lol

buy one armor item vs ashe, it makes an enormous difference.

As zileas said stack armor and get the item that has a chance to slow movement and attack speed when hit. i dont find her that bad

Why not the easiest solution? boost and/or flash will usually work with most anything no? Also keep moving, there should never be a time you stay still(this was a DotA thing, but it translates well with LoL, especially with people who have skill shots(ashe,amumu, CM, etc)

Im sick of this DotA attitude of "don't let the carry farm". The matter of the fact is, shutting down any type of champion (unless they are melee physical DPS) is NOT the same as DotA. With no gold loss on death and better respawn early and mid game you would have to have like 15 deaths to notice any difference.

As for what Zileas said, you getting armor does not stop ashes dual slows nor does it stop her ultimate. If ashe just relied on physical DPS like other champions do (yi,jax,tryndamere) to be effective then it would be another story

Wardens is still very cost effective item, it just does nothing over a late game ashe and rushing it early means that you are going to completely cut down your own damage or effectiveness (unless you are versing a tank) just to counter one champion

sorry double post refer to next page.