Let me sum up Hideyoshi's posts for people who don't want to read the whole thread:

Hideyoshi: ITS FINE, ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A NOOB
Anyone else: Just saying that and saying that anyone who disagrees is a noob doesn't really accomplish anythi-
Hideyoshi: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
Other people: You're really not addressing anyone's arguments. You're just restating the same points over and over, and insulting anyone who says anything differ-
Hideyoshi: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Everyone else: If only ignore existed on the forums...
Hideyoshi: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB.

What arguments has anyone else stated? I'm one of the ONLY people who have put forth any posts of value.

I used your profiles to check Twisted Treeline and overall game experience, then I used that to state that you don't know about how balance is going to work because in the past, people have *****ed and *****ed about champions that everyone else could handle except them, champions which were considered paragons of balance for over a year straight.

The only "arguments" have been "remove remove remove I don't want to group up for objectives remove!"

Literally. Look at Scrimshaw's posts.

If you don't want to put forth productive discussion other than "REMOVE", then I'll just keep restating every statement I've made until you understand that the best course of action is to forget about the old Twisted Treeline and focus on balancing the new one- And removal of a mechanic isn't a solution, tweaking of the mechanic is.

And this is what I've been arguing for this whole ****ing time. People talking about changes to what they feel the issues are, and not just removing them entirely.

Could you maybe post in this thread http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...1#post30386061 your point about having the buff go to one player is a really good one. I'd like to quote it into the OP of this thread but i don't think i can do that cross threads.

Altars will make this map as worthless as Dominion.

Another comparison to Dominion. It's like people only recognize Dominion as THE point capture mode, and everything that comes after with a point capture emphasis as ONE PART of it is just like it.

It's not, and it won't be as worthless as Dominion because Twisted Treeline will always be better, even if it was worse.

What is this, I don't even...

Altars... Don't like Dominion and love TT so dont like this new map...

That was a post to show my extreme personal hateful opinion of Dominion. Even if people thought Dominion was a better game mode, Twisted Treeline would always be better to me.

Ah. Well, we definitely agree on that point. They could make 3v3 a map where you could only navigate by timing your character's /dance emote and only attack by yelling into your microphone with the damage based on volume and I would still play it more than Dominion.