he's not great

How are shaco boxes? Do they agro the mobs, or does it attack shaco?

I'm not Stonewall but been testing a few of the champions myself.

Shaco is pretty much "fine." Just start machete +5 (only way to actually kill jungle camps it feels like) and make sure to wait a good second before opening your attacks on the big creature so that they'll be close to your box and not turn and smack you. It took a little getting used to. You only have to farm until level 2 or 3 anyways in which case you just go gank and force duels on the enemy jungler. Shaco is going to be wonderful in the new jungle with people at lower health while farming.

Tested this myself as a former Rammus main, it's not looking good. His clear is faster than you'd expect, but it is very very unsafe. I haven't found a path yet that takes him to 4 without putting him out of pots and needing to immediately recall (we're talking like 10-15% hp), which I haven't run into on any conventional jungler yet.

Again, his time is good, but it's just so very risky. His only real counterbalance is that some of the new items (Spirit of the Ancient Golem, Ruby Sightstone, Runic Bulwark, Ohmwrecker) synergize decently for his transition.

I have issues with the store in PBE: no runes are available, so all I can comment on is "no runes Heimer": he has a rough time at the start, and is slow. That first 1-4 is a tough journey. I dunno whether machete is a viable start for him, he may need cloth + 6 pots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlHzkfvNbP4 the fast junglers!!!

You are my hero... I don't have a pbe account yet, and have been dying to know how the new jungle is. TY good sir.

Is this actually helping single target much... like with yi, tryn, ad sion etc.? Seems like aoe is still the thing... especially since the machette buffs these too.

I'm just glad Trundle wasn't hit too hard.

Still wish they fixed the bugged animations though.

I started Darius with cloth 5 gank top got FB with blue start and went away with full HP with full clear.


Yea not op.

Stonewall - we've found in internal tests that junglers end up with a lot more gold in most games, but I wanted to see what your experience has been like. Has that been true for your games?