Originally Posted by Patch Equals LAG

I'm just trying to analyze what ppl said using a scientific approach instead of simply posting "jerk, u deserve the ban becuz of u got 900 reports in the last 100 gamse u played"

Originally Posted by Original Duck

I agree this guy was being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk

Originally Posted by Patch Equals LAG

again, back to the point
are u getting mad easily when someone is spamming emote?
go to see a doctor, u need

Originally Posted by Krimson62

Dyrus knows his enemies don't mind emote spamming before a game starts? i'm pretty sure no one knows who they're matched against

Originally Posted by Krimson62

yes they did, by agreeing with this ban

Originally Posted by MathMage

Player Behavior & Justice.


Riot didn't decide spamming emotes in particular was bannable; the judges from the community decided this particular case of emote spam was bannable. A technical clampdown on emote spam would be a waste of resources, and would remove non-abusive cases.


Dyrus isn't playing with people who get annoyed that he spams emotes. He hasn't been asked to stop, and would stop if asked (probably). Same goes for Phreak. How is that the same context?

EDIT: Wait, never mind; given your most recent reply, I shouldn't even bother trying to have a serious discussion with you.

Originally Posted by PerkyDotair

And no, you're wrong. For the vast majority of people, insults and taunting is aggravating and something that is not easy to ignore. That's the reason why insults and swearing are considered socially unacceptable.

Originally Posted by WookieeCookie

[COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk.[/COLOR]

Players frequently write to my team full of excuses for their case, or fearful that they're going to get banned in the future.

They often want to debate the Summoner's Code down point by point.

Is it okay to do this? What about that? What if someone else does X, and I do Y to them in retaliation? Can I get banned for Z?

And our response can always be summed up with one simple phrase:

[COLOR="red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


Sometimes player's ask why isn't the Summoner's Code more specific? Why doesn't it specify each and every action I can or can't do? But they don't notice that we wrote the Code that way on purpose.

We don't want to run a game dictated by strict specific rules. Because every game is unique, and played by different standards.


How much fun would a rule be that says you can never say the F word in your matches?

How much fun would a rule be that says last pick must always be support?

How much fun would a rule say that you can never be Rammus support because he's not considered "optimal" by the community?


Every game should be judged by its own context. And that's why the core rule is always:

[COLOR="red"]Don't be a jerk.[/COLOR]


You can say the F word in a friendly context:



You can also say it in a very toxic context:




---The key difference? [COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


Sometimes it makes sense for last pick to be something besides support:


Sometimes the situation can be very toxic:



---The key difference? [COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


Sometimes it makes sense to go with a real unusual support pick:



Sometimes an unusual pick can be really toxic:



---The key difference? [COLOR="Red"]Don't be a jerk[/COLOR]


I've seen this case emote spamming case before. And he fails the test. [COLOR="Red"]He was being a jerk.[/COLOR]

You can see in his matches that other players ask him to stop. They even do so nicely at some points. But this player doesn't care. [COLOR="red"]He doesn't care because he's being a jerk.[/COLOR]

Is he using a feature of our game which has many legitimate purposes? Of course!

But is he abusing this legitimate feature to be a [COLOR="red"]jerk[/COLOR]? Yes. He is literally spamming the same phrase throughout the entire duration of the game.

Could other players fiddle with their sound settings to disable this? Sure.

Should we expect other players to adjust their player experience because a [COLOR="Red"]jerk [/COLOR]is harassing them?

No. Never.

I even spent some extra time looking up this player's past harassment history. This is not an isolated 5 games this player has done this. He has repeatedly found ways to annoy and harass other players. That's the main reason he has a tribunal case in the first place.

Lyte has mentioned this in the past, but the Tribunal is really great at finding jerks in our game. But it's not always great at providing the full context of just how much of a jerk they are. But always keep in mind it takes many reports, in many games, by many people to even be considered for the Tribunal. The system may only pull 1 to 5 chat logs for a case, but make no doubt about it, the accused has been reported in many many more games than that.

The process is always being iterated on and improved though. And if the PB&J Team sees a need for the additional context to be shown, I'm confident in their abilities to make that happen.