If you do care about our opinion like you say you do then i have something small for you to do for us. I feel that its not unreasonable and that it will actually help with decision making with the new map and such.
What i want you to do is this:
Reinstate the old twisted treeline map for now BUT keep the new one up as well. Notice i said for now! It does not have to be permanent but keep the old TT up for awhile now to help the way that i said it could help with. How will this help with decision making you may ask. Well, if they release both at once they can look and see statistics of who chose to play the old twisted treeline over the new twisted treeline. Maybe this could help show how unpleased a lot of people are with the new map or maybe you can just put to rest the few that are vocal about how bad the new map is. I personally do not like the new map and will most likely not be playing it again since i see no good end for it and i know the big thread in this forum section is asking for the old map to be reinstated but i figured i would ask for the same thing but in a different manner. It doesn't even have to be reinstated permanently but i believe it would be fair to keep it while you have this new mess of a map. As i said you can see the statistics on each map and how many people play it and such which might help a bit with your opinions on what to do.
If this thread even gets upvoted at all i'll try and have a discussion about the old vs new map and problems on the new map and such. But whatever happens, thanks for the effort riot but you tried to hard and ended up fixing some problems and then fixing a bunch of things that were not even broken. I'd like to talk with a rioter about this but whatever happens is ok i suppose. I do not see myself returning to the 3's map for a long time if i even come back to it at all. Best wishes to those who enjoy the new map and i hope some changes can come to the new 3's map as fast as possible.
Update: im gonna start adding in a list of problems i believe there are in this map below. possible fixes as well.i'll try and keep it basic
1. altars- the whole altar situation is a complete mess and are the worst possible idea ever invented. They are dominated by bruisers, they are too strong,they cause MAJOR snowballing, they just plain never worked out how you wanted them to work out, they derive from the gameplay of the map and become focal points of the game. This isnt dominion, i don't want to be focusing on capturing altars or else losing the game. If i wanted to capture something id play dominion. Without the general annoyance of them just being focal points of the game, they do give too much and are unbalancable and frankly have no place on this map. They take any feeling that the new map could be related to the old map and just sucks them into hell. They are the devil of this map.
2. speed shrine- its already being removed from what i have seen but yea this is a giant problem. Gives too much mobility to bruisers and such. champions that shouldn't have it. this was fixed
3. walls,movement around map- All the walls removed in the middle and the top area of the map being nonexistant is boring and too easy and predictable. Theres no get away paths, no variety, just one path through through the middle of the map and if you get stuck on the other side you are dead. No exploration, no where to go. Too many open areas out of the jungle and not enough walls. No variety=no fun
4.Vilemaw- The new boss is cool and all but once again problems come back to bruisers. They have the easiest time soloing or just team taking it down and when they already have a bunch of other advantages on the map this is a problem. If you even try playing a support or something else besides a bruiser your damage output is gonna be poop and your tank taking all the damage up front from vilemaw is gonna be getting hit pretty hard. Also as i mentioned above the top area with vilemaw is lonesome and boring like the middle of the map. Just 1 path walking through, no complexity whatsoever. Every time i think about this i just feel like riot is trying to dumb down they map like how they dumbed down katarina with her remake.
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