Originally Posted by CerealBoxOfDoom
Diana doesn't have assassin level damage, its just hard to make her stop doing it.
Also about the assassins damage. Assassin damage is just enough to kill squishies fast.. some tanks can have that kind of damage, its nothing special. There's alot more to an assassin than damage and diana doesnt have much of that. The only real issue with diana is that she is an AP jungler which is kindof unusual and gives her team comp alot of flexibility. Her ability to go mid is nothing special. So what if she does build a giants belt or whatever. She still has no escapes and not enough power to be a real threat against a smart counterbuild. I suspect that RIOT isn't even nerfing her because she's too strong but rather because her strengths go too far for what they have planned.
Also this nerf seems to mostly effect towerdiving.
She does not have assassin level damage? Explain this to me then, because I just got out of a game vs a Diana where this scenario happened. I'm Elise mid, and obviously stomping Dianna pre lvl 6 because Elise early game is kinda rediculous. The moment she hits lvl 6 she has 1 dorans and some tier 1 boots. I come back into the lane with sorc boots and I believe a ruby crystal and we are both level 6 with full HP. She bum rushes me through my minion wave, lands a Q, shield + ult = dead. All of this was under my tower and she ate 2 tower shots, my human and spider Q, and my human W.
She walked away with more than half her HP. To me that seems like assassin level damage. Hell it reminds me of the days when Akali was fotm before the gunblade nerfs. From that point on in the laning, even though we were even in kills and minion deaths at level 6, I was unable to even go into my lane without having her jump on me (sometimes without using Q first, she would use it point blank so it cant miss), and instakill me. I had to have my jungler camp the lane for a while just to allow myself to get minions.
Now you bring up a point where you are saying she is doing damage with just a giant's belt, but its ok because she has no escapes. There are a large number of mids who have 0 escapes, but they don't get the kind of free stats that Dianna has. "She's melee"? Well her low cost, low cooldown, high damage Q allows her to last hit minions and farm waves effectively. Other mages don't get ridiculous base damage, AND ridiculous base stats while also having defensive steroids.
Also @ Invictrix, I know this discussion is spanning multiple threads so I'll just repeat what I said in another one... none of those champs outright counter Diana. Some might be able to survive the lane against her, but none of those champs are simply easy to counter her with. I'm also confused why people keep saying Heimer counters her. I've seen that in a number of places, but I've yet to see a reason why. His turret damage is negligible and he brings so little to the game outside the laning phase that in a real match, using him to counter pick a strong champ like Diana is just making the game into a 4v4 (assuming he completely shuts her down).