I love Shyvana, she was one of the first champs I bought on my EU account, and one of only 3 melee champs I liked enough to buy (the others being Jax and Skarner). She was fun and quickly became my main....and then season 3 rolled along. And I noticed that while she didn't just start sucking to uselessness like Evelynn used to...she wasn't really good anymore either. Jungling became MUCH harder. Her lack of CC or reliable gap closer outside her ult started hurting alot more. And none of the new items really synergize with her at all for the most part. It quickly became apparent that yeah, she wasn't unplayably bad....but she wasn't very useful anymore, alot of champs could do everything you used to be able to do as her, alot better, and often alot sooner. I'm generally happy to come up with a 1:1 ratio as her now. She doesn't need a hard remake, she just needs a big enough one to work in season 3...

I just picked her up recently and I find her ganks aren't to great in the laning phase. I think her clear time is a little slower than udyrs but she has more tankyness, but perhaps less dps. I think the main thing holding her back is the items as she really needs an armor or ap build with attack speed. Jungling she's forced to go machette +5 pots, boots, treads or tabi, and then she almost has to get wriggles to keep up with the jungle and ganks.

After that it is really hard to build her with any offence and still be tanky. I think she is probably the best jungler choice if the team is mainly ap damage, as wits end becomes a nice offencive and defensive item early on but in most games the enemy will have a good 3/2 mixture making it impossible to have a decent build. Atmas or sunfire is kind of the only alternative to a heavy ad build, and it hardly fits her play style. Another early option is aegis of the legion, but it doesn't offer her any offense.

Her main problem early on is her ease of being kited, and the only solution is the phage. Problem is money is hard to come by in the jungle and she is probably better off building tanky. Another thing that doesn't work to well is building attack speed and cooldown items, unless they are heavy ap and you can fit a wit's end in. Zephyr could be an option but it is really expensive, and when you need tenacity it is much easier to go with treads. The items that could work but hardly give any synergy to her are static shyv, ghost blade, and nashor's tooth. All three of those give an extra bonus she doesn't really need; (crit chance, or ap), making them to costly to buy.

Overall I think she's an awesome character that only fills a small niche in the jungle against ap heavy teams as her build in that direction is a whole lot easier. She does fill the tanky role if built right, but has no real early game presence.

Why not just add a stun to Q. Perhaps even stun on her ult as well. Giving her a little cc would go a long way.

So much wrong in this thread.

People ganking with shyvana, people having slow clear times, people building atmas on her, people actually thinking she needs ap. No wonder you guys think she is weak.

Shyvana's E is her biggest problem. Its pretty useless. I doesn't do any damage, and since its a skillshot that can be blocked by minions, hitting your target can be real hard. It also has very little purpose when jungling.

I would prefer it be completely reworked, as a single-target nuke with some form of CC. It would need to scale off of something besides AP, something that Shy should actually build, like AD, health, or armor. By scaling it off of health or armor, she would benefit more from building tanky.

Also, I have noticed that when I use my ult on her, my enemies are not dragged the entire distance I travel. I would change it so that when Shyvana uses her ult on an enemy, they are pushed back past where Shy lands. This would make her Ganks much more effective.