Originally Posted by Koravel34
Interesting, thank you. I played against several Jax's bot recently, all but one got cutlass, and I didn't lose a single time against them. I had to stalemate one, but the other four or five, I destroyed. The trouble of course is knowing how much of that is player skill and how much is the character involved.
Nunu is a ***** to deal with early-game for anyone. I think Kayle would kill him pretty easily mid to late game.
Diana I've only played against twice and beat up on pretty badly. Haven't played against an Urgot bot in forever. What would be a good Urgot build to counter Kayle?
Yeah, on second thought Cutlass is probably not the best idea. I looked back at the game where I laned Jax vs Aparkhurst's Kayle and I bought Wit's End, Maw, Triforce, Mercs, and Ghostblade. We could both kill each other in about 3 seconds (not including Kayle ults). Never rush Gunblade on Jax and abuse stuff like jumping over the wall from the fog of war.
I will say that I've never lost to a Jax as Kayle in Dominion since S3 started, so I'll have to play against it more and re-evaluate (or just play Jax against the inevitable Kayles I meet in solo queue).
Kayle absolutely out-scales Nunu past around 15 minutes, early if Nunu builds incorrectly or makes mistakes (which many do). I might have to lower the difficulty, but the truth is it's a pretty painful lane before Kayle gets the right items.
I don't own Urgot and haven't faced him bot in forever. Ask somebody else for build ideas, sorry. I just listed him based on knowing what he does and having no idea what to do against it as Kayle (his ult negates half of your ult, he pokes you super-hard, his 15% damage reduction is stupid. The one advantage I'd give Kayle is a lower-CD ult, just like the Nasus matchup).
Originally Posted by Chaosos
Hey your guide doesn't mention Draaaaaaaven. As a Draaaaaaaaaven player, it's a really bad matchup for Kayle. Axes HURT. Best bet I can imagine would be going mostly burst and trying to one shot draaaaven while safe in ulti, but even so Draaaaven's range advantage can be lethal.
I haven't played against a Draven bot yet. Same with Malz, which is why he isn't mentioned in the guide either. The range advantage doesn't necessarily spell doom for Kayle (it's small, and Ashe loses vs Kayle despite a longer range than Draven + annoying kite potential). Kayle's ult is crazy against squishy AD carries, and Draven is more vulnerable to ganks. I can see Draven winning early on, but there's no way he wins once they both get items (this is me speculating).