When will the hotfix happen?

In general, that's why I wasn't afraid of a heavy attack speed item that didn't have movement speed on it.

We recognize that attack speed is actually really hard to use and pretty hard to optimize for - and that there's a lot of interesting play/counterplay to maximizing your use of attack speed.

However, when you add movement speed to the mix - attack speed and movement speed strengthen each other. You are better able to use attack speed the more movement speed you have (due to less distance needed to walk to get back in range) and better able to use the movement speed you have (because your attack frame eases up).

We haven't really thought about pure AA's that much - except that we most likely over-compensate on bruisers to make their autoattack uptime much much higher than they quite need. (Vi, for example, suffers from this.)

Speaking of Riven, I liked playing her in S2 but I was pretty bad with her and Armor made it worse for me. That being said, I haven't seen her at all since PreSeason started. Is she still in a good place? I want to try to pick her up again, but I'm honestly at a lost on her both viablewise and Item wise.

Honestly... it sort of feel like the main problem (besides the obvious BotRK ones) is that Penetration is still sitting at a ridiculous place. If people are still stacking HP as their defensive stats even after Warmogs and Sunfire have taken hits on patches, might that not say something about how unappealing it is to purchase armor/MR now?

Even as an ADC I've found myself looking for an item to help me avoid being bursted only to realize that purchasing a Negatron cloak will do almost nothing for me due to how much of the item Pen will be able to negate. I then have to either purchase knowing that most of the item will just be used making up for the enemy's flat pen or just buy a health item and hope to soak the damage unmitigated with a bigger HP pool.

If people still buy HP even after multiple HP nerfs, and the original trend of buying HP was started by the change in how penetration acted.... Ya know?

I'm a little worried that characters that look to build attack speed as their primary or close to primary statistic are otherwise pretty underwhelming in S3 (looking at Irelia, Shyvana, Udyr etc). I get that live BotRK was an attempt to address this that was overdone - are there any plans in the works for other AS items or buffs that might favor them? I just don't want to have to shove all the fun AS heroes in the closet again...

Hey Xyph, just want to quickly thank you for your communication with the player-base of the game, I've followed your posts for two years now and I thoroughly enjoy your replies to all the questions you get around to, if you don't mind, here's a quick one from me.

What's your view on the belief that the players will almost always naturally be able to come with up a solution to a problematic hero/item/team composition in game? Do you think that developers and technicians can sometimes make the mistake of nerfing or buffing something which in a few months time wouldn't be a problematic issue?

I'm trying to think of a time where the player-base found a way to deal with a major issue that had occurred with League of Legends, but it seems that it's seldom been the case, with Riot almost always inevitably having to intervene.

Wouldn't BoTRK be fine if you just dropped one of the daggers from the recipe, dropped it down to 20% AS, and kept the cost the same? Doesn't seem like the changes need to be extreme to balance it. I mean, it was essentially fine before the changes, people just didn't use it and kept complaining about HP stacking. The changes seem like they were mostly put in place to get people to notice that hey, a counter to HP stacking exists.

ily xypherous

I completely agree with you on oversaturation of armor penetration - the point where we disagree on is where the oversaturation is coming from.

I believe that we simply threw a bunch of armor penetration onto a bunch of S2 fighters - because their damage simply wasn't scaling into the late game at all. Xin Zhao. Kayle. Vi. Jarvan. Renekton. Etc.

However, if the problem was armor was innately too strong - that means that all future champions also needed a way to break armor. By the time we had gotten to Darius and Zed - It was becoming rapidly clear that armor was the problem - and that we simply glued a bunch of armor pen steroids to get around the fact on champions.

I believe that players will be able to naturally come up to a solution to a problematic hero/item/team comp - However, my issue with it is that the solutions are typically worse than the original problem.

That is - AD Carries are overpowered - and so everyone picks Malphite. However, games with Malphite in them, aren't fun. XD

Who thought it was OK to give ADs a burst nuke/slow/speed-up and % damage.. BotRK is 1000x better than DFG and has an easier build path. It need something taken away, I mean its now better than Liandries, better than DFG (DFG has no slow/sprint)... Better than BT PD Trinity

Can you at least give DFG a 3 second silence or a shield for the amount of damage dealt to for DFG'd target or something anything...