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@Riot [Rant] I've been thinking it over...

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Tyrant Mouth ?? Senior Member
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04-04-2011

League of Legends is a great game. It's a huge success and still has much more room for improvement. Practically phenomenal. Practically. I've noticed that the reason a lot of champions are getting nerfed nowadays is because of constant complaints blowing certain smaller issues out of proportion. I'm not saying the nerfs aren't justified. I'm just saying that perhaps the nerfs are being pushed in too hard.

Look at Jax for example. He was once a ridiculously OP menace according to some people. Even I admit, he was kind of ridiculous. However, because of a lot of the players on the lower end of the skill cap in this game getting extremely frustrated due to how OP a champion is (as well as getting matched up versus people that aren't even in the same league in the first place), they complained so hard that the nerfs were too strong. Rarely do you see anyone do well with him anymore, unless they're very dedicated. This is the case for other champs.

What if the problem isn't the champion? What if some champions just need to be buffed? It's become a pattern lately, for new champions to be introduced bi-weekly here that completely leave some of their older counterparts in the dust. It's sad. It's discouraging. Maybe some more play-testing is needed. Maybe not. I understand Riot is understaffed, and they work hard to try and make everyone happy. I know that Riot knows very well that no matter how happy they try to make someone, there will always be someone else trying to bring them down because it isn't convenient to them. Maybe I'm being one of those people right now and I just don't realize it.

However, the more I think about it, the more obvious it becomes. It isn't the champions that are OP or UP. As far as I can tell, all signs have been pointing to the matchmaking system. It could definitely use some work. If this feature was improved on a bit, I believe more players would be placed with other players in their end of the skill cap. Thus, Riot would most likely have a much better perspective of how well some champions fare against each other. Nerfs and buffs would be implemented in a more efficient manner. With a little bit of elbow grease, League of Legends could become more balanced than it has ever been.

Unfortunately, as far as anyone knows, Riot hasn't given us any sign of improvement on the matchmaking system. But maybe they are. Who knows? That's another factor hindering this game from being as phenomenal as it could be. Lack of communication. Yes, Riot, you tell us everything right before it comes into place. However, maybe a little bit of conversation with the community itself would help things fall into place a tad better. Yes, there are things that as a company, you shouldn't make public. However, there have been several situations that more communication definitely could've been provided. Maybe this will improve once more staff members are hired.

All in all, I find myself playing this game less and less. The enjoyment is slowly dwindling for me, and the spark is slowly being put out.

Riot, I could deal with months of not having a champion release. Hell, you could decide not to release another champ for a year. As long as things like balance in the matchmaking system and other aspects of the game are being worked on, I don't mind. Lately though, all I see every patch is my framerate dropping further and further. All I see are more leavers, and people sitting at the nexus saying they're high or drunk or having *** or eating dinner. It's taking its toll on me. I no longer look forward to logging in most of the time. I really hope something is done.

I believe you when you tell us you're working on a new map, Riot. I believe you when you tell us a graphics overhaul is being worked on. I even believe you when you tell us the balance is being worked on. But the more time passes with the same scenarios repeating themselves day after day, the harder it is to hang in there and believe you. I'll stick by you guys (as well as many many others) as long as I can Riot, but throw us a bone, yeah? Something to tell us you're there, and you're still the same company you were back in Closed Beta. The same group of DotA players that loved the game for what it was, and not how much more profit could be made with each bi-weekly champ.

If you have changed, and continue to, then I wish you good luck ahead, Riot; For the road ahead is a trainwreck, and too many companies have already trodden that path before you. Learn from it if this is the case. That's all I have to say.

tl;dr: Priorities need work.

P.S: inb4downvotes

 
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Tyrant Mouth ?? Senior Member
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04-04-2011

Bumping so this isn't buried prematurely.

 
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Taguir ?? Recruiter
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04-04-2011

wow ... that wasnt bad

 
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Tyrant Mouth ?? Senior Member
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04-04-2011

Erm... Thanks? Not sure what to say lol..

 
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WhattayaBrian WhattayaBrian's Avatar ?? Engineer
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04-04-2011

Okay.

Okay.

Let me take off my Riot pants and put on my gamer pants for a second. After all, in the coming years, who knows where I'll be or where I'll work? But I'll always be a gamer.

We've been pretty **** good with champs lately. There're statements that Nocturne's OP. I don't agree with those, but that's just me. That means the last WTFOP champ we released was Leblanc, and we fixed her pretty fast. The other candidate was Irelia, but no one knew her potential until way later. Renekton's getting some tweaks, but I think he's pretty balanced (I'd rather have Nasus on my team); his cooldowns are long and his Ult splashes flat magic damage, so it'll be resisted pretty hard most of the time.

We're playing it very safe buffing old champs that were once crazy OP because they were crazy OP. No one wants to fight old Jax again. No one wants to deal with old Ezreal. No one wants heal-kite comps again, yet people cry for Soraka buffs. That in particular makes me really sad. Soraka's really good, and I really don't want to start seeing her in every game again.

I think the game's in a pretty good place right now. Sure, it's not perfect, but drastic, unpremeditated changes certainly aren't going to move it closer to that shining meridian. I'd personally like to see Kass and Zilean nerfed, among others, but I'm willing to play despite that, because they're not that far out of line in my eyes.

Just think about it. Tanky DPS are a problem right now, but is the game really not better than it was previously? If you still disagree, that's fine, but really think about it first.

 
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SuperEiyo ?? Senior Member
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04-04-2011

Check me iEiyo. I still play Jax. He's fine the way he is.

Maybe some people just play him because he used to be cheap and OP and not the fact that he takes skill.

Edit : One idea for not having noobs in solo queue is that maybe umm? Ban them for an hour or one day if they get reported " Unskilled player " by a few people?

 
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04-04-2011

Bump

 
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Hired Man ?? Senior Member
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04-04-2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhattayaBrian View Post
Okay.

Okay.

Let me take off my Riot pants and put on my gamer pants for a second. After all, in the coming years, who knows where I'll be or where I'll work? But I'll always be a gamer.

We've been pretty **** good with champs lately. There're statements that Nocturne's OP. I don't agree with those, but that's just me. That means the last WTFOP champ we released was Leblanc, and we fixed her pretty fast. The other candidate was Irelia, but no one knew her potential until way later. Renekton's getting some tweaks, but I think he's pretty balanced (I'd rather have Nasus on my team); his cooldowns are long and his Ult splashes flat magic damage, so it'll be resisted pretty hard most of the time.

We're playing it very safe buffing old champs that were once crazy OP because they were crazy OP. No one wants to fight old Jax again. No one wants to deal with old Ezreal. No one wants heal-kite comps again, yet people cry for Soraka buffs. That in particular makes me really sad. Soraka's really good, and I really don't want to start seeing her in every game again.

I think the game's in a pretty good place right now. Sure, it's not perfect, but drastic, unpremeditated changes certainly aren't going to move it closer to that shining meridian. I'd personally like to see Kass and Zilean nerfed, among others, but I'm willing to play despite that, because they're not that far out of line in my eyes.

Just think about it. Tanky DPS are a problem right now, but is the game really not better than it was previously? If you still disagree, that's fine, but really think about it first.
I agree that no one wants to play vs the old versions of the OP champs again, I really hated fighting Old Ezreal. However, I've always wondered how Old Jax would fare in today's game. He was OP back in the old days, no doubt, but would he still be OP today?

 
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HaggisOnAStick ?? Senior Member
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04-04-2011

But the last WTFOP champ you released was Nocturne.

 
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Scylado ?? Senior Member
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04-04-2011

tl;dr