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Buffing Annie is proof that we are in a powercreep.

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Kwisatz Haderach ?? Senior Member
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05-24-2011

Pretty much. I mean look at Magic: The Gathering. Some cards strictly replace older ones while some of the older rares are worse than the worst commons in the last few years.

 
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05-24-2011

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Just last year Annie used to be considered the best mage in the game bar none. Even at some points with no changes she considered the best champion in the game for a little while before season one after Jax and Fiddle nerfs. I agree that Annie's power feels a little lacking with all the power of the new champs. Though she really did not need as much changes as she is getting this patch. If she isnt top tier now shes at least high tier in her current state. I think Brand deserves more buffs than Annie at the moment.

EDIT: I think the reason they are buffing her is because she isnt used in every single tournament game anymore. She is still used effectively. Some teams like the early lane dominance that an Annie gives. Just cause she cant do late game damage like Malzahar doesnt mean shes underpowered. Honestly a few tiny buffs are probably needed for Annie but not a complete remake of her 3 damage skills.
There's definitely power creep - even if we had theoretical perfect balance, adding new options to the game has some native power creep. Since we also are not perfect beings and do make some things more powerful sometimes, we add a little more.

While we do go through pretty significant effort to not add power creep, some will make it in - and we'll be realistic recognizing that. There's also a little bit as players get better...what works on a game's launch is rarely the same as strategy evolves.

 
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I feel the Annie buff was actually perfect. Nerf her early game, but make it to where she isn't an absolute piece of poop late. And honestly she was being out shined by a lot of mages I feel this buff was well deserved.

EDIT: Also love the new skin! When I turn on my 'E' it looks like I'm a dwarf star. I've been running around as Annie all day yelling "DWARF STAR POWERS ACTIVATE!!!!"

 
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There's definitely power creep - even if we had theoretical perfect balance, adding new options to the game has some native power creep. Since we also are not perfect beings and do make some things more powerful sometimes, we add a little more.

While we do go through pretty significant effort to not add power creep, some will make it in - and we'll be realistic recognizing that. There's also a little bit as players get better...what works on a game's launch is rarely the same as strategy evolves.
So do you expect that a patch will be released to tone down every champion?

I figure GD would be filled with spam on that patch day =[

 
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I honestly don't feel that gimped early game. Annie is supposed to not be good in 3's and yet I find myself often being able to handle the enemy team by myself relatively not overfed.

 
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I remember a red saying she was one of the "balanced" characters. Like she was the caster version of Tristana and Warwick. Who never get changed in patches. Derp rework imo

 
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I remember a red saying she was one of the "balanced" characters. Like she was the caster version of Tristana and Warwick. Who never get changed in patches. Derp rework imo
It's like things change over time, or something!

 
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So do you expect that a patch will be released to tone down every champion?

I figure GD would be filled with spam on that patch day =[
According to the boards, don't we already NERF EVERYTHING INTO THE GROUND EVERY PATCH DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM?

 
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I've gotta say, annie at level 6 in mid is easily the scariest thing to come up against still.

Flash, stun, tibbers rape. There goes 3/4 of your health and there was NOTHING you could do about it...

I dont see how she hasnt been nerfed already to be honest.

 
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According to the boards, don't we already NERF EVERYTHING INTO THE GROUND EVERY PATCH DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM?

*looks at twitch*

Yes. You do.