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Buffing Annie is proof that we are in a powercreep.

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Morello Morello's Avatar ?? Lead Content Designer
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05-25-2011

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Release just enough weak ones to make the argument that the OP ones are not on purpose.

How can you be doing this as long as you guys have and still have no standard to release champions? You have shown you can get it very right with certain champs then release such obviously flawed champs its not even funny. Its hard to believe you guys have no standards and QC yet you claim the OP ones are complete accidents...

Lets not forget that most of your list is stronger than most launch champions too. Just because they are not considered OP they are all evidence of powercreep for a profit.
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I have detected startling evidence that Riot was in fact partially responsible for the pyramids.

They wanted Egypt to be OP, so that everyone would buy RP. Morello is of course also later responsible for the nerfing of Egypt. He is in fact, Alexander the Great himself. You can grow a beard, cut your hair, put on fake glasses, but you can't hide the truth.
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05-25-2011

Let's take a look at all the super OP champs that were released in the last few months:
Xin (ages ago at this point, but blatantly OP)
LeBlanc (OP, hotfixed within 48 hours)
Uhhh....
**** YOU RIOT POWER CREEP

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05-25-2011

They buffed AP items. Annie got worse compared to other casters.

Like Morello said, her design wasn't bad, it was just outdated. Did she need the changes? No. And, imo, she's super strong right now and probably is gonna get nerfed. But they were easy changes to make, that served to move Annie into the playstyle they want her to have.

If anything, the average power level has gone down. Imagine the old Kayle, Morgana, Twitch, Tryndamere, etc right now...

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05-25-2011

This is why Corki/Ashe are the best carries, Janna/Zilean are the best supports, Rammus/Shen/Amumu/Alistar are the best tanks, Annie/Malzahar/Anivia are arguably the best mages...

The only champion archetype dominated by "new" champions is bruisers. Which, big surprise, the new champions invented.

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Gotta love the paranoia. "They only release good champions so they get RP!"

"They release bad ones."

"They only do that to make us think they don't only release good ones!"

/facepalm

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05-25-2011

Back then annie was THE early game champion and ganker. Since then, riot added several strong early game champions and gankers, plus the metagame is no longer aoe, so annie seems weaker and it seems as if there was power creep. There is, but not as much as you make it seem.
PS: im sure people considered anivia to be over Annie.

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05-25-2011

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There's definitely power creep - even if we had theoretical perfect balance, adding new options to the game has some native power creep. Since we also are not perfect beings and do make some things more powerful sometimes, we add a little more.

While we do go through pretty significant effort to not add power creep, some will make it in - and we'll be realistic recognizing that. There's also a little bit as players get better...what works on a game's launch is rarely the same as strategy evolves.
Heh, makes me think of one champ that gets nerfed into the ground over and over, but just rises again like a phoenix every 5 months or so. (Eve = Diamonds)

I STILL think Anivia is better than Annie. She is the caster to which all others must be compared.

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05-25-2011

i have 2 say that i likked the changes. i just hope they rework ryze cuz of his ability to become tank/nuke/never runs outa mana dude

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Let's take a look at all the super OP champs that were released in the last few months:
Xin (ages ago at this point, but blatantly OP)
LeBlanc (OP, hotfixed within 48 hours)
Uhhh....
**** YOU RIOT POWER CREEP
I can think of a few more.

MF
Renekton
Jarvan
Noc
Ryze Reborn
Teemo Reborn

IMO Rumble is going to be *rediscovered* in a month or so and people will realize how good he is. Lee Sin is also strong as hell, people just suck with him. (Zomg, I needs to use a skill shot to gankz? Weak!) Lee Sin is suffering the Trundle effect. People just aren't good enough to play him right yet.

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