Originally Posted by IronStylus
We then have problems with whether we could tell her gender or not.
I do love ya IronStylus and I thought your post did a good job of explaining some of what can be forgotten about the process. It's good to remind people that you're often working from the "idealized" form and that ya know, it's just a picture, and you're not actively trying to be dismissive of your characters. Plus, it is your job and your working in the fantasy action genre.
But it was the above quote that summed up why I still have a gut reaction of annoyance with how ladies are often portrayed. It's that the way to identify a woman is through her breasts, even when there are lots of other identifying ques.
Then, beyond that, the second way to "easily" identify women is by putting them into revealing or demeaning outfits, hopefully to reveal said breasts, but mostly to emphasis their feminine qualities. It sometimes feels like the muppet syndrome. That is, you can have Cookie Monster but if you want his sister or girlfriend you have to make her pink, throw a bow in her hair, make her giggle and be a little stupid.
Which leads to the final point of does it matter to be 100% sure the character is male or female? I mean, really (as was mentioned) people make fun of Ezreal for being a girl and it isn't like you've suddenly given him giant muscles to compensate. Why would it be so soul shattering to have a female character like the original Kayle before she got boobs attached to her armor?
Why can't it simply be a character that is designed how the team likes it and if anyone is confused they can read the lore and look for the pronoun. People think Kennen is a girl and he has no ways to define himself either way...so why not actually
make a female character the same way? Which isn't to say that a more streamlined or stereotypical character shouldn't exist....but when it becomes the majority it starts to look like you're trying to make a statement.
Here's what gets me though-----I think the other reason why I get a little passionate about it with Riot is because you guys are actually pretty awesome. I don't really fault BioWare or Sony or any other faceless corporation for endorsing and pushing less than amazing female characters. They are very much tied up in the problems of the video game industry and they're not in the business of redefining anything. Riot has been different though. You try to listen and support your players. You try to change the play experience into something greater than what it has been. So, why not make some changes in this respect? Why not try to redefine the possibilities for female characters?
I'm glad you're having fun, as are we (believe it or not, just because someone brings up a complaint or a concern doesn't mean they don't love LoL.) I love a lot of female characters you all have created and that includes Miss Fortune and Eve. I just think you guys are so smart and clever that you can come up with a female character that is attractive, likeable, and doesn't have her boobs on display