That said, Naga Siren is great. But they're different games. They're both fun. I love watching streams of both and the tournaments (for the record, The DotA2 Invitational was one of the most amazing things I've seen) and all of it. Fanboys fighting over what is better make me sad. It's as if someone says they like ice cream but one guy comes up and demands he like vanilla over chocolate while another guy says he has to like chocolate over vanilla. Uh, it is possible to simply like ice cream.

Iunno why people act like every champion in Dota is so unique. They do have some amazingly unique ones(Meepo, Invoker) but some of them are just so darn simple/outdated design-wise or have just plain boring kits.

Skeleton king, Bane, Lina, Sven, Anti-mage, Drow Ranger(One of the biggest offenders here), Dragon Knight, Slardar, Bounty hunter, Mortred, and i'm sure I'm missing a ton of em.

Some of the heroes have awesome kits sure, but I just feel like League does it a lot better with a lot of their unique kits and builds. You'll never see a champion like Orianna, Cassiopeia,Rumble, or Draven in Dota, champions who have extremely unique mechanics that really couldn't be carried over easily in Dota, because they wouldn't work or just simply arent too fitting for the game.

I mean, Dota 2 is pretty damn unique with some of their characters, I'm not gonna lie. But most people have to notice that LoL has a lot of characters that flow so well with the game.

I played Dota way back then during battle.net, and when I first played LoL, i was amazed by how unique some of the characters were. Seeing champions with whole new energy systems, passives that totally change an otherwise boring skill set to an amazingly different one (Mordekaiser,, totally different item builds, even multiple ones on the same champion, a lot of really interesting plays on Dota champions (Teemo being, in my opinion, Techies and Templar Assassin combined), and all of that.

I just want to say that while League does limit themselves with a lot of creative possibility due to what can and can't work with the game, they make up for it with a lot of creativity of their own, and no damn "3 passive, one active" champions.

You're right. After 3 games of playing bots, you now have a solid foundation to compare subtleties and mechanics between the two games.

I don't like playing against Invoker, having 3 instances of Quas active makes it basically impossible to kill him if you aren't spamming your skills (which you can't do in Dota).