Originally Posted by Doc Zenith

Innocent until proven guilty?

On one hand some are in favor of justice, in the other, they ignore the right to due process.
I'm not big on spouting out about "my rights" and that is generally because my rights so often are simply moral guidelines, up for individual interpretation. However, most of us have the legal right to due process.

We can voice our opinions, that's often a legal right, too. However, I find there is an inherent flaw in saying "these people are cheats" before Riot has decided so. I know not all nations share this value of 'you are innocent until proven guilty by due process'... But on these forums, we're not all American.. or British... or Aussies - yet we abide by the rules which govern Riot games.

Let's show the Chinese, the Korean... the Taiwanese communities.. what it means to be a member of a Just society
- and we can start by giving them this basic right.

Originally Posted by Syntaxs

Thanks for having a better English and me and thanks for knowing that it is called
"Innocent before proven guilty"!
That's what I expressed in another thread today but with way worse words.

And guys there will never be 100% evidence to them being guilty.
So there was a ping?
Five players could have used it, one could have explained something.

Oh the player was looking to the side, maybe he wanted to look into the beautiful face
of Reginald, maybe he saw a flie sitting on the nose of someone or he just wanted to
relax his neck.

You will never be able to prove them guilty for 100%
never effing ever.

Originally Posted by Doc Zenith

Innocent until proven guilty?

On one hand some are in favor of justice, in the other, they ignore the right to due process.
I'm not big on spouting out about "my rights" and that is generally because my rights so often are simply moral guidelines, up for individual interpretation. However, most of us have the legal right to due process.

We can voice our opinions, that's often a legal right, too. However, I find there is an inherent flaw in saying "these people are cheats" before Riot has decided so. I know not all nations share this value of 'you are innocent until proven guilty by due process'... But on these forums, we're not all American.. or British... or Aussies - yet we abide by the rules which govern Riot games.

Let's show the Chinese, the Korean... the Taiwanese communities.. what it means to be a member of a Just society
- and we can start by giving them this basic right.

Originally Posted by Layorz

And how are you proven guilty? Evidence... There's plenty of it around the forums.

Originally Posted by Doc Zenith

Innocent until proven guilty?

Originally Posted by mogonk

I really hate it when people with no legal expertise try to invoke legal terms they don't understand in contexts where they don't apply.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is not some sort of abstract principle that we're expected to apply in all walks of life, it is a legal standard which applies to entities accused of criminal acts. Ok? It has absolutely nothing to do with this.

Originally Posted by mogonk

I really hate it when people with no legal expertise try to invoke legal terms they don't understand in contexts where they don't apply.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is not some sort of abstract principle that we're expected to apply in all walks of life, it is a legal standard which applies to entities accused of criminal acts. Ok? It has absolutely nothing to do with this.