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"In the end, cheating is cheating, and they should be DQ'd." - Chaox

 
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Fosterisgod ?? Senior Member
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10-10-2012

TSM went like 0-5 against frost combined and only one or two of those games was really close. Frost is the better team and they went to the finals because of that. Stop crying and making excuses you are making NA look bad.

Edit: downvoted by TSM fanbois
TLDR; frost is better

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Neh ?? Recruiter
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10-10-2012

Oh TSM fanboys

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10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by PoDragonSlayer View Post
Yea, it's a $30,000 fine, but the fact of the matter is Azubu Frost has still made money from the playoffs and potentially more money if they win semi's/finals. They made money - and they cheated. Does that make sense to you Riot?

Also, "We don’t believe, however, that these actions decided the winner of the game." (Riot). Eh Riot? You don't think a successful level one gank from TSM can win a game? Also, knowing Azubu Frost was cheating lowers TSM's moral and confidence dramatically which hurts their chances of winning even more.

Just go watch Chaox's stream right now: http://clgaming.net/live/6735-tsm-chaox
Your linking a TSM stream from CLG, SHAME ON YOU! SHAME ON YOU!

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BloodKaqn ?? Senior Member
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10-10-2012

We can argue all we want about how the games were or could've been affected and about "if"s and "but"s, but we'll never know what happened. Forever denying us that possibility during a World Championship match deserves DQ. I would have been fine if everything played out normally, both teams trying their best, and then it still ended up with TSM losing. It's not about who would've could've should've won anymore, leaving so many uncertainties in a match so many people were looking forward to just sucks.

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BuckWild Panda ?? Senior Member
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10-10-2012

They were right in that it didn't directly affect the outcome. Can anyone seriously argue that TSM is on the same level as Azubu, really? None of the NA teams are close. Regi was behind their mid both games, dyrus got shat on hard both games and than their top roamed and destroyed bottom. Their team comp was horrible. Other than the temporary tsm lead, it was never even close.

I agree that it should probably be more of a punishment than this fine, but what else can they do without completely ruining the rest of their biggest event yet? It's overall a **** lose-lose situation. Korea would probably bomb riot headquarters for disqualifying arguably the best team in the world

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IWinByLosing ?? Member
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10-10-2012

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Each sport has a level of unsportmanship allowed, basketball has 5 fouls, football has 2, or 1 depending on the severity. They restarted the match because they looked back and they did it again, that's just stupid. There's even a ping to prove 100% of the cheat.
The ping was way off from where the TSM team was. Sure it was in the general area, bottom left of the minimap, but still at least a good half screen away from their actual position.

That's like saying you ping baron when the other team is still at inner turret.

The ping was done in the general area where TSM would be since they were there the game before which was restarted.

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Oconnomo ?? Senior Member
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10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Kayleorfeed View Post
considering everyone was in their base and the game was being paused and remade...

no
but I thought cheating was cheating? Rules are look straight ahead. He also violated rules regardless of the circumstances.

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No1LovesYou ?? Junior Member
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10-10-2012

AzF should be DQ'd and TSM should still be out.

TSM did get outplayed, but AzF was caught cheating. Just putting TSM back in kinda says "They would have won without the cheating." which I dont believe. AzF got caught this time, we have no idea if they did more than that. Lets just assume that was the only thing. I think AzF should be DQ'd and TSM shouldnt be put in. Cheaters shouldn't continue, and wins shouldn't be given unless it was a close game like 2-1. They were 2-0'd.
Otherwise I would say give it to them.

Also why no soundproof booths? I just didn't get it. Also who was the jerk with the vuvuzela.

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Akkku ?? Senior Member
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10-10-2012

They want to shut down Jayce early game because Jayce is much more stronger than any top laner which would've impacted the game a ton, but doooo level 1 fights dont mean much apparently

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LegendaryHobos ?? Senior Member
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10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Fosterisgod View Post
TSM went like 0-5 against frost combined and only one or two of those games was really close. Frost is the better team and they went to the finals because of that. Stop crying and making excuses you are making NA look bad.

Edit: downvoted by TSM fanbois
TLDR; frost is better
This is not a argument that TSM lost because Frost cheated.
This is a argument that frost cheated, and why are they still in the tournament when there is solid proof that they cheated.
It makes the tournament look like a joke. "Oh you cheated in a world tournament that will give the winner 1 million dollars? We'll slap you on the wrist with a large fine which you will simply pay off with your tourna winnings". The punishment doesn't fit the crime.

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