Eve and Twitch can be hit to halt the stealth so players can reveal them. Shaco shows where he deceives so players know where he will pop-up.

Deceive in one direction, then run in a different direction. You are now moving in a different direction than they think you are. Problem solved.

It's not just a 'suicide bomb', though. It does damage while it's alive (even going as far as to proc item effects like Bloodrazor, which can be extremely useful), soaks up some damage/CC (Moving it in front of Morgana = wasted Dark Binding, for example), distracts enemies, is great for jungling, etc. Sure, it's not exactly on the amazing side in terms of damage, but it has great utility.

Other than that, yes, I do think that JitBs should have their targeting improved, or allow manual targeting, or something.

I've noticed a few other things about Deceive while playing Shaco, not sure if anyone else has noticed this or not.

You mention Deceive showing where Shaco teleports to, I've had Deceive multiple times teleport me, but fail to stealth me entirely.

Also had Deceive teleport me, Stealth me and place me right next to my target, but when right clicking the hero I want to attack, Shaco just stands there like a idiot, doing nothing and locking himself in position for a second or two, usually by that time the Deceive is useless due to the 4 second duration.

Hallucinate - The clone has absolutely Horrible pathing, often times getting stuck between two minions and running aimlessly while trying to free himself.

Obviously you don't play Shaco enough if you don't think those are all his bugs... and if you even think some of those are bugs.

Bugs I'm concerned about are these:

-After using deceive sometimes you will come out of invis for no apparent reason (maybe it's an AOE hit)
-After using Deceive if you deceived to close to someone that was auto attacking you, they can still attack you despite being invisible. Also if they targeted you for an ability after you go invis once they get in range they will still use that ability on you as long as they haven't cancelled it (this means they can still track you while your invis cause they FOLLOW you and then they can use an ability on an INVISIBLE target)
-During hallucinate all an enemy has to do to find the real Shaco is to ping him. The target does not show up on the Hallucination
-During Hallucination the Hallucination will hic-up in it's attack if you tell it to attack the same target. (So if you you spam Alt+Click or just Click attack they won't even attack they just sit there, this is annoying for me because I click several times to make sure I get the right target)
-Pathing on the Hallucination is horrible. This is especially annoying when there are several minions around a tower. If the Hallucination can't find a route in 2 seconds he sits there so you have to move him to the other side of the tower to attack it.

I forgot to mention this one as well

the only reason your pissed is cause shaco doesnt instantly win anymore.

Shaco was UNGODLY unbalanced before the nerf. Frankly, i think they overdid the nerf a bit, but to be honest i cant tell where. the invis, NEEDED a nerf, incredibly bad. when shaco got like past level 14, he could basically perma decieve, so he would only be visible 4 seconds out of every 10, and the autocrit with his passive, plus his naturally high quick attack and huge attack power, made his DPS absurdly good. he could 3 shot anyone that didnt have stacked armor or hp who was the same level, or sometime even lower level than him.

Right now, i say hes almost perfect. the only problem i have is the absurd damage on his jack in the box's. by themselves, there not TOO bad. but since he can get like 5-6 of them in 1 bush, with the 1 seconds fear 1 gives all 6 of them can kill a hero without him even being there. If the cooldown were a tad longer, or the fear a tad shorter id have no problem with them increasing their duration if they reduced the damage. Not even a string of teemos mushrooms can take a hero down from full to dead, and heim's turrets dont CC you when they attack.

but that could just be an annoyed player *****ing.

shaco is not ****, hes still very good. hes just not ezmode anymore. if you want EZmode DPS, go play ashe.


Also to add to the list of bugs for shaco, im not sure if this is acually intended or not, but his clone if its below half health, it sets off stuff like Warricks blood scent, and im pretty sure its death counts for KAyles retributon

One more thing I remembered with Hallucinate.

Occasionally when i cast the spell, the clone is placed directly ontop my Shaco, leaving me unable to move until either I, or something else causes the clone to move.

I've found that this happens mostly when i'm next to a wall of some sort, where the clone doesn't have enough space to appear next to Shaco.

I'd say 2 things are breaking Shaco right now, 1) Jack in the Box is now useless in teamfights, it will die to all AoE while it used to be spell immune. 2) Hallucinate is just plain bad. It's so easy to tell which is the real one, and the damage it deals on death is pathetic, not to mention the area of effect. It's only good for farming dragon + golem + lizard + Baron.

3) His stats suck