He could burst way too hard at lvl 6 nad like someone else said, it didnt feel great to level up the ult at all.

''OMG ASSASSIN THAT CANT INSTAGIB AT 6''...You know theres something called balance, he has very high poke in lane with basically no resouce, if he was as good as instagibbing as other assassins then he would simply be too strong.

I agree he is fine as is. they just need to fix his ult cancelling. ive had sion's barrier cancel mine but refund the cooldown and ive had brand's passive cancel mine mid animation

He seems like a fine AD caster to me, seems pretty solid mid lane as well as top, but we'll see once he hits live

This is exactly right. With his early game poke and his passive he was too dangerous from 6-9, especially around level 9 when his Q is doing a lot of work. It's very dangerous to be near a Zed with his ult and ignite up if you're below 50% hp, and he's pretty good at getting an enemy champ down that low in lane.

We also wanted the "pop" from the ult to feel good - sometimes it could pop for like 20 damage - so now you'll always see some damage from what is arguably the most exciting part of his ult.

20 Damage that has me excited! .... >.< seems like you guys are afraid of releasing another Zyra,Diana or Jayce so instead your gonna release a Syndra,Kha Zi & Elise.

... Twenty damage sounds so exciting that I may just hold onto the 6300 IP you're going to charge for him anyway. He's advertised as an assassin, but he can't assassinate stuff.

Kind of wonky logic there.

The red is saying that, previously, the ult would pop sometimes 20 damage. They're saying now that the pop will be doing more after the fix.

I'm assuming it wasn't working as intended, because a 20% drop isn't exactly an increase :/

They're just moving the initial damage to the "pop."

He's right though, moving the pop might be a good thing, but the actual damage nerf is a bit too much. It's hardly an ultimate at level 6 and more of a damage boost. It's very underwhelming at early levels.

Having an extra shadow isnt as bad as you say, if you can hit a triple e or q its insane, not counting the gap closer.

Ive experienced myself that the auto-attack worth base dmg replaced quite well the 40% with no base dmg, I dont see myself popping the ulti for more than around 300 dmg, wether it was with 40% or 150 damage + 20%, around lvl 6-8.

Even if it really does less damage at that level, its still freaking awesome, people compares it to talon's e, but its far more interesting since it gives you a shadow that interacts with other skills!