In season 1 there were a few champs that could start vamp scepter, after the nerf to vamp scepter and ease of jungle in s2 people just went boots, will we see a lower cost of vamp scepter to make scepter 1 pot accessible for start, especially since the 3% lifesteal is being relocated?

Said champions can always get AA or Athene's instead so they can use real summoner spells.

Most champions are perfectly fine with their natural mana pool and regeneration, and if that's not enough, they can always take the blue buff.


So again, Clarity remains either a noob trap, a tool for forcing a dodge, or a warning sign for allies of person who picked it.


Not even when I was low level did I rely on that noob trap. Only way you can make it useful is if it did something like instantly add 500 mana into your Tear/Manamune/Archangels Staff upon use.

-Hog being removed
-Indomitable being removed

Kinda sucks since both of those help Nautilus immensely early game... on pretty much every map. Without them he's gonna be even squishier early game now. He has no option but to play passively in the first few levels. I hope something replaces them both that can help him out during his weakest points.

Spellvamp Quints specifically allowed Akali to return to the jungle and not be a total joke, as well as help patch up Vladimir during the period he lacks a Revolver on top of stacking with said Revolver after obtaining it. They're similarly decent for Mordekaiser, though likely not optimal for a few reasons.

Clearly you didn't try them on the PBE for very long.

Weird question:

Any masteries that effect champion pets? Ie: damage reduction, increased damage, duration, etc? I realize this is incredibly niche, but there are more pet champions (8 that deal damage/interact with enemy champions via damage) than there are energy users, and energy users have a mastery they can use.

Is surge being removed because of the new skill shot changes that aren't in this patch :/

I don't feel like you've really given a very good reason for removing Surge. Ive recently really been enjoying it on champs like Sion, Xin Zhao, Warwick, Jax, Teemo and other bruisers that use the AS buff to buff their abilities and have AP ratios that are fun but rarely made use of (except maybe sion and teemo). Ignite is about having a healing debuff and some extra true damage to finish the job, Surge is about increasing your combat efficiency, doing a bit more damage, applying a few more on-hits, getting slightly better heals or stronger sheilds. AP pushers can use this to great effect on towers....... its nothing like Ignite

I like that you've said that you don't like Flash+Ignite being the only thing people take but then you've gone and removed some of the other more interesting, fun and different options. "People didn't know how to use it properly", but that's because they've never tried it. Now with the nerfs on Flash Ignite, disenchanted summoners might try to branch out to some different offensive summoners like.... oh wait.....

Please, tell me you discussed this further in the Riot offices , more than just "its not used very much"

I'm just going to keep asking: what's happening with Exhaust? Exhaust basically shuts off the action in small fights. Last I checked, Exhaust was on Riot's hot list of effects that they don't love having in the game.

Even if all you can tell me is "I don't know if anything is being done", I'd still like to hear that over silence.

It's the new meta-game, obviously.

Sort of offtopic, but will there be no item thread today?