Originally Posted by Louvier

because you cant dress like a woman unless you're wearing a minidress
sorry for anyone out there with jeans on
you're butch

Originally Posted by Posioned Ruby

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UIYWRF9UAW...ic_comp_06.jpg


women logic

Originally Posted by suns song

i'm just going to say one last thing, i think

aside from a few whiteknights and a few radical feminists, i don't think it's LoL's portrayal of female characters that is anyone's chief concern. it's the underlying problem behind it that is a concern. i acknowledge that a lot of people have trouble getting that point across, but there are just as many people stamping their feet and refusing to see farther than 'feminist! feminist! alert! must discount at all costs!'

there is a reason that most portrayals of female characters, not just in LoL, but in most media, are of the scantily clad vixen we see. it could be simplified to '*** sells', sure, but it's deeper than that, and it affects a lot of women on a daily basis.

almost every female character we see in the media is big bosomed, thin, and often vapid. if she isn't vapid, then she has to be attractive. if you are not attractive, then you have no worth. attractiveness is everything. in many cases, women and female characters are brought down to simply being objects. and that's not cool.

there's a reason anorexia is rampant in young girls. there's a reason so many women have no self esteem. there's a reason so many men - and even women, as shown by responses to LoL threads - hold extremely misogynistic views and think it's ok to hold them.

it's not the way LoL champions look. it's the reason why they look that way that is the problem.

i apologize for not being very good with words, i never claimed i was articulate

Originally Posted by Well Hungarian

Most women are not discouraged to play this game because of how the female champions appear. In fact, of the women who have posted in this thread all of them enjoy the female artwork.

They keep making champions directed towards males because that is what makes them money.

If you can make a cup of orange juice and a cup of apple juice for the same price...but sell the apple juice more frequently in higher volumes...which one would you make?

I am really starting to think there is no way to discuss anything with you. You just keep trying to pound that square peg into a round hole. If you really want to see things change, go start a female gaming community...contact Riot directly...do something other than repeating the same thing over and over.

You are the minority when it comes to this topic. It is not because you are a female. It is because of your point of view...your opinion. As such, it is up to you to make valid points that people can understand and relate with in a manner that will make them question things. Do this and you might get somewhere. Thanks for the conversation.

Originally Posted by Rachel

Huh?
Actually I think it's more often people who havent experience inequality being the ones who are ANTI-feminist.

It's like people born into privilege are more likely to not understand what it's like to starve, or know the value of a dollar, etc etc.

Just because I am LUCKY to not experience inequality, doesn't mean others are. And I can see that.

Originally Posted by Nerf Plos

Except most women seem to not only be neutral, but AGAINST what you're repeating over and over again.

No, they won't make the game to cater to you and maybe 2 others, deal with it.



And this is the right way to go, don't **** on someone else's fun, look for your own.

As I said in the very first post here, men don't give a **** if they add more (like EVERY single male character in the game) unrealistic male body types to the game. You want equality, learn from them.

Originally Posted by Gloriforus

Im not sure what you mean, It wouldnt make sense for people who have experienced inequality to be Anti-Feminist.

Getting upset that women have an unequal footing in managerial postions throughout the workplace, completely understandable.

Getting upset that women look sexy in a video game, which you choose to play, stating that it objectifies women into sexual objects, how does this make sense to you? If the nature of the women on LoL are that condescending to you, dont play it.

(I realize you stated you dont care, you in this case is the people who do.)

Originally Posted by ZankouHoshizora

While I can't speak for anyone other than myself, I think about champion design and discuss the issue because I think it does matter.

Originally Posted by suns song

i'm just going to say one last thing, i think

aside from a few whiteknights and a few radical feminists, i don't think it's LoL's portrayal of female characters that is anyone's chief concern. it's the underlying problem behind it that is a concern. i acknowledge that a lot of people have trouble getting that point across, but there are just as many people stamping their feet and refusing to see farther than 'feminist! feminist! alert! must discount at all costs!'

there is a reason that most portrayals of female characters, not just in LoL, but in most media, are of the scantily clad vixen we see. it could be simplified to '*** sells', sure, but it's deeper than that, and it affects a lot of women on a daily basis.

almost every female character we see in the media is big bosomed, thin, and often vapid. if she isn't vapid, then she has to be attractive. if you are not attractive, then you have no worth. attractiveness is everything. in many cases, women and female characters are brought down to simply being objects. and that's not cool.

there's a reason anorexia is rampant in young girls. there's a reason so many women have no self esteem. there's a reason so many men - and even women, as shown by responses to LoL threads - hold extremely misogynistic views and think it's ok to hold them.

it's not the way LoL champions look. it's the reason why they look that way that is the problem.

i apologize for not being very good with words, i never claimed i was articulate